On Dec 18, 4:46 pm, John Cowan <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Per Bothner <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Tail-call optimization is not a pure optimization, as it changes the
> > semantics in a fundamental way:  It removes stack traces, which are
> > part of both observable behaviour (stack traces) and the Java security
> > architecture.  Conversely, the lack of tail-call optimization when it
> > is expected (or demanded by some [non-Java] language specification)
> > means that a program that should run in finite memory will run out of
> > stack.
>
> Indeed.  We need to be careful to distinguish between tail-calling as
> an optimization and proper tail calling as a language feature.  We
> also need, while I'm at it, to distinguish between mere tail recursion
> and generalized tail calling.  I've been hammering on these
> terminological confusions lately; it's all too easy for people, even
> people who know better, to write "TCO" when they mean "proper tail
> calling".
>

All points granted, but "proper" isn't that great either.

Rich

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