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That is not an example of bullying. Words like that should not be used liberally because doing so denigrates the experience of people who actually have been bullied. Kurt On April 11, 2014 11:26:41 AM EDT, water lilies <[email protected]> wrote: >Two members of this forum are committing bullying during the first week >I >joined this forum. One secretly, the other in the open. On April 8, >2014, I >received a private message from John [email protected]: "I, for >one, am >sick and tired of your belly aching over K9. Use it and stop >complaining >or stop using it and stop complaining! It is the best email client out > >there. It's free and supported by volunteers and all you can do is >bitch >and moan. Shut up!" > >Seth Holmes bullied me in response to my post "Why Double Posting?" >I will be writing a response in that posting. > >Is there an anti bullying policy? If not, lets adopt a policy. > >Despite the bullying, I will remain a member. I don't have a choice to >leave this forum. This is the only K-9 forum. K-9 is the only email >client >in f-droid.org. F-droid.org is the only open source android repository. >I >use only open source apps. All the Android apps I use are from >f-droid.org. > >Since 2007, I have used open source operating systems (Linux) and open >source apps. I have joined many linux forums. This is the only linux >forum >in which I have been bullied. I stay on topic. I don't troll. I ask >technical questions, trouble shooting and make recommendations. > >In response to my request for help getting K-9 to work with Notify >Lite, >the developer of Notify Lite recommended using Kaiten. Though Kaiten is > >open source, there is no download link for Kaiten that does not require > >also downloading and installing a closed source installer. Installers >run >in the background, use battery and above all invade privacy by >requiring >permissions. I do not enable background data to run nor enable >location. > >Unfortunately, when I had first gotten an Android, I set up a Google >account on my phone to download a few apps on Google Store. Afterward >downloading, Google would not permit me to disable background data. >Google >continually requested recording my voice. I wondered why as I wasn't >using >any voice related app. Google collects voice prints for voice >recognition. >Google would not permit me to delete my Google account from my phone. >To >continue to use the apps, a Google account is required. > >I did a factory reset to delete the Google account. The apps were not >downloaded to my internal SD card. Thus, the apps were wiped too. Took >days >setting up my phone again. Google continued to request to record my >voice >though I no longer had a Google account on my phone. > >Do third party closed app installers imitate Google's policy of >prohibiting >the deletion of the installer? Or allow the deletion of the installer >but >deleting the installer also deletes the apps? > >F-droid.org has an installer but it is not required as there is an >option >to directly download apps. Even with F-droid's installer, apps are >downloaded directly to the internal SD card. A factory reset does not >delete the apps. F-droid's installer runs in the background and >consumes >the battery. I deleted it. Apps remained functional. I can disable >background data and disable location. Only email client in f-droid.org >is >K-9. > >Can anyone refer another repository that permits direct downloads that >has >an open source alternative to K-9? If not, I have no alternative but to > >continue using K-9 and this forum. > >If developers don't have time to answer questions or at least refer a >FAQ >that answers the question (how come there is no FAQ?), developers could > >have their own forum. Fork this forum into two forums: One forum for >developers. The second forum for users to help each other. Obviously, >the >intent of this forum is the first and not the latter. - -- Sent with K-9 Mail and cryptographically signed with APG so that you can verify that I am the actual sender. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: APG v1.1.1 iKcEAREKAE8FAlNIDy1IHEt1cnQgUGFkaWxsYSAoRm9yIG15IFJpc2V1cC5uZXQg YWNjb3VudCBvbiBteSBtb2JpbGUuKSA8a2xwQHJpc2V1cC5uZXQ+AAoJEKz91LdC 13P5+WIBAJv9NqmjfNLo2On5ufsoWLb8oCK0tQx1Gv8gADJCCCjnAP99igPBz9Qg iBZ3VQXQa7typN26nxojuvSHD1o29hYYlQ== =OutW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the K-9 Mail Users List. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe, email [email protected] To report an issue with K-9 Mail, visit http://code.google.com/p/k9mail/issues/list For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/k-9-mail --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "K-9 Mail" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
