K-9 still doesn't even support OAUTH2 yet...

This is a MUCH higher priority than than PGP/MIME (vastly more gmail
users than PGP/MIME users)...


On 11/16/2016 5:41 AM, Philip Whitehouse <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2016-11-16 06:10, Mobile Mouse wrote:
>> The only insane part of this conversation is being stuck in one use
>> case and threat model, despite several people screaming otherwise.
>>
>> I guess you haven't heard of using separate keys for encryption and
>> signature either...
> 
> Who would use it? We aren't spending time on a feature at most half a 
> dozen people will deploy at the cost of either drowning the application 
> in endless options or complicating the UX.
> 
> K-9 is suffering from configuration overload as it is - 3 settings menus 
> all with sub sections - hundreds of permutations. Supporting every 
> possible use case is not a realistic proposition.
> 
> Especially with what, half a dozen active developers?
> 
> The biggest problem with PGP/MIME is the complexity of set-up and usage. 
> Adding more and more options to support every plausible way of using it 
> is not helping solve that.
> 
> By all accounts there's 4.5 million keys on keyservers. Now I know, I 
> know, people distrust keyservers. Maybe that's not even half of all 
> keys.
> 
> But even if it were only 40%, meaning ~10 million keys and each key was 
> a single email address (far from true) and all of those were active (far 
> from true) it would be a deployment rate of 0.21%
> 
> So the biggest threat to PGP/MIME is deployment. You can talk about 
> potential threats all you like, but it's irrelevant because the biggest 
> threat to communicate with PGP is that the user won't have a single key.
> 
> Supporting multiple keys is therefore ridiculous at this point.
> 
> None of this doesn't mean that if the deployment rate changes the app 
> will accommodate it. But right now the app has far more important 
> priorities.
> 
> There is a reason people like Moxie wrote this: 
> https://moxie.org/blog/gpg-and-me/
> 
> I happen to disagree with him that PGP is pointless. He also proposes no 
> solution. But there is something to be said about the community of PGP 
> crypto people.
> 
> 
> - Philip Whitehouse
> 

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