Igor:
I checked your code changes today, and my Macintosh
has not gotten a VNC halo. Sorry.
How did you emulate the device? You should be able to do
it by giving one of your PC's a MAC address which is within the MAC
address range that's assigned to Apple. Their range is specified
here: "http://standards.ieee.org/cgi-bin/ouisearch";.
Should I ask VK to debug this?
-Scott
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote:
> Hello Scott.
> I made some changes into "Macintosh" specific source code.
> As I wrote earlier, I don't have really Macintosh,
> so I has executed certain programmer pseudo emulation
> of Macintosh for Kaboodle.
> Now I see VNC halo on my "Macintosh" emulation device.
> But that programmer pseudo emulation is not quite safely.
> Therefore I ask you about following:
> - please check results of my changing
> (please clear Kaboodle registry key before that check),
> - please ask the author of "Macintosh" specific source code
> to check my source code changing.
> Please see my inline comments.
> - Igor
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kaboodle-devel"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 8:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: Bog Report, 4 July
>
>
> > Igor:
> > Let me try to explain (I'm CC'ing Oleg too, who
> > sometimes has better luck understanding my english).
> >
> > My Macintosh is running VNC. The Macintosh IP address
> > is 192.168.123.128. I'm running Kaboodle on a WinNT machine. It
> > has IP address 192.168.123.130. There is nothing else on this
> > LAN. When I start Kaboodle, it correctly puts a Macintosh icon
> > into the "My Macs" icon group. But the icon does not have a VNC
> > halo. When I open the Property Panel for the Macintosh, and go
> > to the VNC Property Tab, Kaboodle auto-detects the VNC server
> > correctly. I can enter a password and hit Connect and VNC starts
> > like it should. But if I open the VNC Service Property Panel,
> > the Macintosh is not listed in the list of servers. And although
> > the VNC server has been detected, there is no halo on the
> > Macintosh icon. If I change the icon to a Windows PC icon, the
> > halo still does not appear.
> ********************************************************************
> It was before changing:
>
> Please see the function
> void CNetworkLocalView::RebuildNIDTopology(int nIndex)
> in the file UI\NetworkLocalView.cpp.
> In that function exists block
> case EF_NID_PC: ...
> That block checks both binary flags
> 1) - bool bIsIndependentVncListner,
> which indicate that independent Vnc Server is running on PC.
> 2) - bool bKaboodleRunning,
> which indicate that Kaboodle is running on PC,
> Then that block creates a PC icon -
> AddPC( ..., ..., bKaboodleRunning, bIsIndependentVncListner, ...);
> The PC icon knows data #1, #2 and can show "VNC halo" or "Kaboodle halo".
>
> In the function
> void CNetworkLocalView::RebuildNIDTopology(int nIndex)
> also exist block
> case EF_NID_MAC: ...
> That block doesn't checks flags #1, #2 directly.
> This block immediately creates a MAC icon -
> AddMacintosh(pDevAttribs->m_DeviceID,pDevAttribs->m_strAlias,
> pDevAttribs->m_iconIndex);//@VK9
> The MAC icon doesn't knows data #1, #2 and can not show "VNC halo" or
> "Kaboodle halo".
>
> ********************************************************************
> It is now:
>
> In the function
> void CNetworkLocalView::RebuildNIDTopology(int nIndex)
> exist common block for PC and MAC devices
> case EF_NID_PC:
> case EF_NID_MAC: ...
> That block call the function
> CEFIcon * CNetworkLocalView::AddPC_or_Macintosh(...,
> bool bKaboodleRunning, bool bVncListner,int iconIndex, int iType)
> for both types of device.
> ********************************************************************
>
> > If I replace the Macintosh with a Windows98 PC that is
> > running VNC but is not running Kaboodle, it works correctly.
> > The VNC halo appears when it should, and the VNC Server list
> > shows the IP address of the Win98 PC. Also, the Property Panel
> > for PC's show four tabs: System Info, Components, VNC Setup,
> > and Icon Properties. For Mac's, there are only three (the
> > Components one is missing). If I change the Win98 PC's icon
> > to a Macintosh icon, the VNC halo still works correctly.
> >
> > I think this behavior is due to Kaboodle treating
> > Macintosh's different from the Win98 PC. That is, it seems to me
> > that the NID identifier which tells Kaboodle to put the Macintosh
> > into the "My Macs" icon group is *also* telling Kaboodle to not
> > treat the device like a Windows PC with regards to VNC and in
> > regards to what tabs to show in the Property Panel. Kaboodle
> > should treat Macintosh PC's and non-Kaboodle PC's the same in
> > *every way* except for the icon group and the "System Info" tab
> > in the Property Panel.
> >
> > Put another way, Kaboodle should treat all devices that
> > are not Printers or Appliances in the same way. Any one of these
> > PC's (running Windows, MacOS, Linux, whatever) can have a VNC
> > halo. All of these PC's which are not running Kaboodle should
> > have the same list of Property Tabs: System Info, VNC Setup, and
> > Icon Properties ("Components" should only appear on machines that
> > are running Kaboodle). All of these PC's which are not running
> > Kaboodle should be able to get a Kaboodle halo if a user on
> > that PC started up the application.
> >
> > Put another way, Kaboodle should treat the other devices
> > that it detects on the LAN in one of four ways: the device is
> > either a computer running Kaboodle, a computer not running
> > Kaboodle, a printer, or an appliance. For the second group
> > (PC's not running Kaboodle), the *only* reason that Kaboodle
> > tries to detect what operating system is running is so that
> > it can give the device a good icon. After assigning the device
> > a default icon and putting the icon into an icon group, Kaboodle
> > should stop treating a Macintosh differently from a Linux PC
> > or from a Windows PC not running Kaboodle.
> >
> > Please let me know this "bug report" makes any more
> > sense now. Thanks!
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 10 Jul 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Scott.
> > > I don't understand the bug.
> > > Your sounds is like
> > > - "my Macintosh running VNC, but other Kaboodle don't know that" or,
> > > - "my Macintosh running Kaboodle, ...".
> > > May be you install some kind of OS Windows emulator on Macintosh?
> > > Please send me:
> > > - LAN configuration, including type of computer and type of OS,
> > > - description what computers running Kaboodle,
> > > - your screen shot (the image that you see);
> > > - description what you _must_ see on the screen;
> > > - Igor
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Igor Kotelevsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: "mailbox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kaboodle-devel"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 8:52 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: Bog Report, 4 July
> > >
> > >
> > > > Igor:
> > > > I checked today, and my Macintosh is still not being
> > > > treated like a PC in regards to VNC. Perhaps we should fix
> > > > this again, this time from the "icon code" or "NID type" point
> > > > of view.
> > > >
> > > > -Scott
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Scott C. Best wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Igor:
> > > > > Okay, I think you've found the problem then. Macintosh PC's
> > > > > really should be treated as just a subset of PC's. The *only*
> > > > > difference should be that, at startup, they are given a different
> > > > > icon and put into a different Icon group. But *that's all*. So
> > > > > it sounds like your changes to CEnumAllDevice are correct. It
> > > > > may have been easier to just have changed the "icon code" instead.
> > > > >
> > > > > Really, there are only three types of devices: PC's (ie,
> > > > > something that can run Kaboodle *or* VNC; Windows, MacOs, Linux,
> > > > > whatever), Printers, and Appliances (eg, a LinkSys router). This
> > > > > "type" field should be one of the first-most fields of the NID,
> > > > > I would think.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ideally, the user should be able to *change* the auto-
> > > > > detected type of a device in the "Icon Property" PropTab. If they
> > > > > change, say, what we detected as a Printer to a PC, not only should
> > > > > they be able to change the icon, but the "VNC Tab" should appear
> > > > > in the PropPanel the next time it's opened.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Scott
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Scott.
> > > > > > You wrote:
> > > > > > > > > 3. If I startup a VNC server on a PC not running Kaboodle, I
> > > > > > > > > can go the the PropPanel for that device and connect. No
> > > > > > > > > problem. But the VNC Service icon is not listing the
> device
> > > > > > > > > as a server, and the VNC halo is not being put on the
> device
> > > > > > > > > correctly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I saw similar bugs.
> > > > > > > > It was several days earlier.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've some more data. It only happens for me now if the
> > > > > > > VNC server is running on a Mac. I've got two other machines on
> > > > > > > my LAN that run VNC: a Mac and a WinNT laptop. The WinNT box
> > > > > > > is treated correctly by Kaboodle: it gets a VNC halo and it gets
> > > > > > > listed in the VNC servers in the VNC service icon. The Mac,
> > > > > > > though, doesn't get either. I can use Kaboodle to VNC into it,
> > > > > > > but only if I go thru the device's icon.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Perhaps some of the code is looking at the "type" field
> > > > > > > of the NID, and only reacting to PC's, not Mac's?
> > > > > > *****************************************************
> > > > > > I don't know "MAC" part of Kaboodle's specification,
> > > > > > so all my discourses carry the approximate nature.
> > > > > > *****************************************************
> > > > > > Kaboodle source code has 30 strings which contain "type" field
> > > *EF_NID_PC*.
> > > > > > If your assumption is valid, then I think following.
> > > > > > Please see the class CEnumAllDevice in the file
> > > EF\ModifyRegWinVNC.cpp.
> > > > > > In the header file you can found following:
> > > > > > // This class enumerates all local object CNIDDevice which is PC.
> > > > > > // Own PC non include in this list.
> > > > > > That class enumerated PC device only.
> > > > > > The MAC objects were absent in Kaboodle when I wrote that class.
> > > > > > It seems to me that now the class CEnumAllDevice has to enumerate
> MAC
> > > > > > device also.
> > > > > > I added that enumerating into the class CEnumAllDevice.
> > > > > > But I must to underline next.
> > > > > > Current Kaboodle source code uses the class CEnumAllDevice in
> > > following
> > > > > > cases:
> > > > > > 1) - for VNC autodetection;
> > > > > > 2) - for filling list of VNC service icon;
> > > > > > 3) - for filling list of "Modify list" dialog
> > > > > > (please see "VNC setup" prop tab on server side);
> > > > > > 4) - for filling list of File Transfer service icon;
> > > > > > 5) - for filling list of "Accept files only from machines in..."
> > > dialog
> > > > > > (please see "Receive file" prop tab in File Transfer service
> icon).
> > > > > > Now all of #1-#5 will include not only PC devices, but also MAC
> > > devices.
> > > > > > Please let me know if it is not correct.
> > > > > > *****************************************************
> > > > > > Sorry, I didn't have a MAC PC in my LAN, so I cannot check above.
> > > > > > *****************************************************
> > > > > > Some other developers (I and Oleg) saw that bug on non MAC PC.
> > > > > > So I think that source code have also other NID updating bug.
> > > > > > *****************************************************
> > > > > > -Igor
> > > > > >
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