Igor:
        Using the VSN is fine, even if it's changable. One problem,
though: if I start Kaboodle on a PC with a network card, let it
discover the LAN, then shut it down and start it up again on that
PC with the network card not attached, it hangs up. If I start it
for the first time, with a new registry, it uses the VSN number and
is fine.
        Thanks for looking into this.

-Scott


On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Igor Kotelevsky wrote:

> Hello Scott.
> Now Kaboodle uses the WinApi function
> *GetVolumeInformation()* for determination HD serial number
> (please see the MSDN).
> I think that it is like *the VSN*.
> - Igor
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott C. Best" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Aryeh Goretsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [Kaboodle-devel] Re: MAC address - all zeros [Re: Master Node
> bugs]
>
>
> > Igor:
> > Aryeh brings up a good point: which HD serial number, the
> > ESN or the VSN are we now using?
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> > On Sun, 17 Nov 2002, Aryeh Goretsky wrote:
> >
> > > Scott,
> > >
> > > Did you mean the embedded serial number (ESN) which is stored in the
> > > drive's firmware or the volume serial number (VSN) in DOS and Windows
> > > (and possible OS/2) formatted volumes?
> > >
> > > The latter is quite easy to change, either by reformatting or running
> > > a free utility such as Systernals' VolumeID.  Also, it is a DOS/Windows
> > > construct and may not map easily to *nix and Mac file systems.
> > >
> > > Getting the ESN might be more difficult but it will provide a better
> > > way of authenticating users, which will become much more important if
> > > we start charging for various value-added services.
> > >
> > > We had this issue at Tribal Voice (trying to identify paid users' PCs
> > > from non-paid users) and as I recall here's a list of unique "things"
> > > to look at on a PC:
> > >
> > > o  network interface MAC ID
> > > o  Processor Serial Number (if any)
> > > o  ESN from hard drive(s)
> > > o  system ROM BIOS serial number (if any)
> > > o  video ROM BIOS serial number (if any)
> > >
> > > And on the software side:
> > >
> > > o  operating system serial number
> > > o  operating system licensed owner
> > > o  VSN from hard drive(s)
> > >
> > > We also discussed collecting information such as drive size, operating
> > > system version, processor frequency and stepping information RAM amount,
> > > display size and palette depth for statistical purposes (e.g., figuring
> > > out what sort of platforms we should be developing for).
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Aryeh Goretsky
> > >
> > >
> > > At 05:06 PM 11/15/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> > > >Igor:
> > > >         Heya. I haven't tested things yet, but just wanted to
> > > >comment: using the HD serial number is a *much* better identifier
> > > >than the MAC address. Good idea. MAC address can be spoofed for
> > > >one, and they can be proxy'd in a switch-setting.
> > > >
> > > >-Scott
> > >
> > > [...snip...]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>



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