Hi Stuart, --- Stuart Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dalibor Topic wrote: > > It looks acceptable in w3m (text mode browser), > but > > the bars don't really look good. The tables are > o.k., > > though. You might want to add some space between > the > > columns. > > Yeah, I can imagine that rendering the bars in ascii > mode would look a > bit funny. Do you know if there's any way to specify > something in a > stylesheet (eg display:none on the whole "bar" > table) that would apply > to w3m and other text-mode browsers only? Maybe an > @media type...
I'm sorry, but I'm not familliar with the finer details of CSS. > > An alternative to using the spacer gif could be to > use > > colored empty table cells with ascii symbols in > the > > background color. That should work nicely on w3m > and > > the ascii symbols (a different one for each color, > of > > course) should work nicely on lynx, too. It will > make > > the web pages somewhat bigger, though. Check out > > http://www.illuminated.co.uk/gif2html/ to see what > I > > mean. ;) > > Hmm... that's a really cool program and a nice idea > in principle, but it > doesn't seem to be able to get down to single-pixel > resolution. If we > could find a way to degrade to that kind of output > for text-mode > browsers (and perhaps browsers with poor or missing > CSS support) but > still give pixel-accurate results like the current > ones are for > modern/graphical browsers, I'd be happy :) (my first > thought, in fact, > was to use a "." character and just skip it if the > cell was less than > 5px wide. Unfortunately, in japitools output it > seems that cells less > than 5px wide are very common, so the results looked > really funky in NS4.x). How about using a transparent 1x1 spacer with the ALT tag as a single ascii char in the background color? But that reintroduces the spacer ... Or you could use a table containing separate tables with different width (presumably equal to percentages), as in http://www.pageresource.com/html/table5.htm, and without  s; in the table cells. So you'd have: bar chart table with width 100 { for each color: empty background coloured table with width equal to that color's percentage } I believe one has to excecise great care with parameters to get it to work reliably on older browsers, but hey, if your stuff validates, it should work ;) > Specifying doctype 4.01 transitional gives more > realistic errors. It > seems I closed a <th> when I meant to close a <tr>, > and I need to put > 'alt=""' on each of my 1px images (hmm, I suppose I > could put > alt="XXXXXXX" where the number of X's is > dynamic...). I'll fix both of > these, and add a 4.01 transitional doctype, in the > next day or two. Cool. The more valid pages on the web, the better ;) > > As running a kaffe nightly job to generate a > > kaffe.japi.gz file depends on getting TreeMap & > > TreeSet from Classpath integrated into kaffe, and > > Archie is o.k. with that approach, I'll give it a > try > > in the next couple of days and see how far I get. > > Right now I'm trying to fix some build issues on > > Mandrake 9 & Cygwin, and it looks promising. I'll > get > > to TreeMap/TreeSet afterwards. > > Well, the "usual" way of generating a japi seems to > currently be to run > japize with the JDK. But if you can get Kaffe to do > it, that would make > me extremely happy :) I'll try to get it to work soon. cheers, dalibor topic __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ kaffe mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kaffe.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kaffe
