I will look into a few things and see what I can do. One way I might approach this is install kaffe as default and then put a sun jre package on the update server to let people get it who want it. Let me think about it a bit and see what I can think about and come up with. I might can help here and there :) On Monday 28 July 2003 12:37 pm, Dalibor Topic wrote: > Hi Matt, > > Matt R. Jezorek wrote: > > Well thank you now it builds great. So I got one other question. How > > production ready would you say kaffe is. The reason I ask is > > > > We are developing a Linux based distro for educational use. We will be > > including java which is why i am testing kaffe as it is a open project > > which we love to include instead of Sun's. Most will be used manly as a > > plugin to the browser and Open Office. So looking to include it in the > > distro. > > > > Let me know if you think its ready for prime-time. > > Uh, depends on what 'prime-time' means ;) > > I'm talking with OpenOffice developers about what they need exactly in > terms of kaffe features to build OpenOffice. Running OOo's bits written > in Java may or may not work, I don't think anyone has tried it yet. > Though judging by their import statements, it seems that OOo first needs > a good cleanup, since it appears to be using a lot of Sun's internal > classes. How much of an impact that has I can't really say. If you want > to build OpenOffice using kaffe, join the discussion on the developer > mailing list on tools.openoffice.org. > > There is a mozilla plugin for kaffe, but it hasn't been merged into the > main tree due to lack of a developer who can fix it to work with mozilla > latest xpcom incarnation. The sources, if you intend to work on it, are > here: ftp://ftp.kaffe.org/pub/packages/kaffe-mozilla-oji [1] > > One of the big prime time issues is that there is no swing. Kaffe works > with Sun's swing 1.1.1, but it's a separate download under an awkward > license. So you may find yourself with your users wanting to run > LimeWire and replacing kaffe with Sun's JDK. > > To sum it up: if you know what you need, and kaffe fits the need, go for > it. It includes some useful bits from 1.4, 1.3 and 1.2 and almost a full > implementation of 1.1. > > But as a full scale replacement for the 1.4 JDK, it's not there yet. As > a full scale replacement for JDK 1.2 neither. It should be O.K. for 1.1 > applications, if you still run some ;) And it's quite alright for many > applications that don't need the more esoteric features of 1.4, like XML > processing applications. > > Of course, if you decide to use kaffe, we'd appreciate your bug reports > and patches. You may even get rapid responses to bug reports, like today ;) > > Writing a java runtime is a huge task, and we can use all the help we > can get. Experimental distributors are welcome to join in the fun ;) > > cheers, > dalibor topic > > [1] Speaking of mozilla: I've heard that Michael Koch is working on a > mozila plugin for gcj.
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