Tim,

Thanks for looking into this !

>> it looked as if some of them use the same logic as the ruby client, and 
>> might also be affected.

Could you please list the clients that you think might have the same bug ?

> are you actually using any client besides the java / scala one in production 
> at linkedin?

No.

Thanks,
Neha

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Tim Lossen <t...@lossen.de> wrote:
> jun,
>
> the ruby client (maintained by alejandro crosa) is here:
>
> https://github.com/acrosa/kafka-rb
>
> i noticed just now that he also seems to work at linkedin?
>
> last commit on github is a bugfix, on october 14. but there
> also seem to be some changes on the apache side which are not
> in the github version ... maybe alejandro can best sort this
> out himself.
>
> while looking over the other clients when we where hunting for
> this bug, it looked as if some of them use the same logic as
> the ruby client, and might also be affected.
>
> are you actually using any client besides the java / scala one
> in production at linkedin?
>
> cheers
> tim
>
>
> On 2011-10-25, at 17:58 , Jun Rao wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> Thanks for the update. What's the github url for the ruby client? Has it
>> diverged from what's in Apache?
>>
>> I agree with you that we should consider excluding those clients not well
>> maintained from our distribution.
>>
>> Jun
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Tim Lossen <t...@lossen.de> wrote:
>>
>>> ok, we finally traced this issue to a bug in the ruby kafka client,
>>> which we were able to fix -- the topic was never corrupted.
>>>
>>> (we sent a pull request to the maintainer of the client on github.)
>>>
>>> BTW, i do not think that it is a good idea to include an (outdated)
>>> copy of the ruby client (and other clients) in the kafka distribution.
>>> maybe better *link* to the actual client projects?
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> tim
>>>
>>> On 2011-10-24, at 21:30 , Tim Lossen wrote:
>>>
>>>> ok, thanks -- tomorrow we'll try investigate further ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2011-10-24, at 9:12 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>
>>>>>> what if the CRC32 checksum is correct, but the internal binary message
>>> structure is not?
>>>>>
>>>>> The CRC check involves recomputing the CRC and then checking against
>>>>> the stored CRC in the header. The probability of that matching is
>>>>> extremely low.
>>>>>
>>>>> Corruption is also possible if the broker crashes in the middle of a
>>>>> flush. In that case, when the broker restarts, it detects an unclean
>>>>> shutdown, runs recovery on the logs and truncates the log if the CRC
>>>>> check fails at some message.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, we compute the CRC only on the payload of the message. So
>>>>> technically, some bits could get flipped in the header of the message.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Neha
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Tim Lossen <t...@lossen.de> wrote:
>>>>>> what if the CRC32 checksum is correct, but the internal binary message
>>>>>> structure is not?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2011-10-24, at 8:56 PM, Jay Kreps wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is not supposed to be possible. We include a CRC32 with each
>>> message,
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> invalid requests should be detected and rejected. But that does not
>>>>>>> preclude
>>>>>>> the possibility that we missed a case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Jay
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Tim Lossen <t...@lossen.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is it possible for a faulty client to "corrupt" a topic on the
>>> broker,
>>>>>>>> so that consumers cannot consume messages any more? or does
>>>>>>>> the broker protect itself against this?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i am asking because we seem to have run into such a situation.
>>>>>>>> we are using a perl producer and a ruby consumer. the per lib might
>>>>>>>> be a bit outdated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>>>> tim
>>>>>>>>
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