Guy,

Yes, this is possible. One solution that we have been thinking about is
that if a rebalance happens, each consumer can somehow get a callback that
indicates the set of partitions being consumed may have changed. Will this
address your concern?

Thanks,

Jun

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:10 AM, Guy Peleg <guy.pe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> One more possible race might happen when the partition number is fixed but
> consumer(s) are added/removed
> For example: If I have a consumer reading data from two partitions
> (partition one and partition two), and a new consumer is added, the result
> will be that each consumer will consume from one partition
> let's say that the 'old' consumer will continue with partition one while
> the new consumer will process the data from partition two
>
> but, suppose that partition two held events that belong to event id 'x',
> and that partition is now consumed by the new consumer,
> Since consumers might reside on different machines and they are possibly
> multithreaded processes, there might be a situation that other event ids
> 'x' are already 'in the internal queues' and are being processed
> by the first consumer (events that were read/entered the first consumer
> before the new consumer appeared but are being processed or wait to
> processed within the 'old' consumer) and that means that there is a
> possibility that those events are being processed simultaneously by the two
> consumers (since the new consumer will start reading events that might be
> of id 'x' and that might be then processed in parallel with event ids 'x'
> in the old consumer)
>
> If that is a possible scenario then when a new consumer is starting there
> should be some kind of 'consumers sync'
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Jun Rao <jun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Guy,
> >
> > This is really an issue with changing # of partitions. If # of partitions
> > changes for a topic, in the transition phase, messages used to be
> delivered
> > to the same partition could be delivered to different partitions and
> their
> > consumption ordering is non-deterministic (since ordered consumption is
> > only guaranteed within a partition).
> >
> > In 0.7, # of partitions increases as new brokers are added. In 0.8, # of
> > partitions is set at topic creation time and will stay the same when new
> > brokers are added.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jun
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:12 AM, Guy Peleg <guy.pe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > As I learn and plan to use Kafka, I'm concirned about possible race
> > > condition when brokers/consumers are added or removed.
> > >
> > > Say I have a topic that is devide into two partitions, where consumers
> > are
> > > deviding the mssages between those two partitions by ,say, modulo
> > event-id,
> > > where events with the same event ids should be processed by the order
> of
> > > their arrival, that will work since as I said, I will devide the
> incoming
> > > events by their event-id % number_of_partitions
> > >
> > > Now, when a new paratition is added, there might be situations where
> > events
> > > with event-id 'x', will still be in the first broker, while new ones,
> > with
> > > event-id 'x', are added to the new paratition
> > > which may result in those events being processed in parallel, what am i
> > > missing?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Guy
> > >
> >
>

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