On 03/15/2015 02:57 PM, Thomas De Schampheleire wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Mads Kiilerich <[email protected]> wrote:
On 03/15/2015 01:04 PM, Andrew Shadura wrote:
Hello,
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 23:03:27 +0100
Mads Kiilerich <[email protected]> wrote:
+Note that this method requires root privileges. When installing as
a regular +user, you can use::
+
+ pip install --user kallithea
+
+or (recommended) install Kallithea in a virtualenv (next section).
I think we should give a different advice.
In my opinion, pip should only be used inside a virtualenv. Running
it as root is wrong.
I don't know this --user option. How does it work ... if it does work?
It really does work, it installs packages into ~/.local, which is
useful if you just want to test things out, and if you do want to mix
your system packages with locally installed ones.
How does it work? Will the global installation of pip hook into Python
startup and inject packages from .local in sys.path? How about executable
scripts - where are they placed?
Either way, I understand that pip --user still will install the packages in
a shared location. That will make it very hard to uninstall or "start over".
I guess it also makes it impossible for the a user to have more than one
Kallithea instance.
I think we need more clarification of pros and cons of the different options
before we start recommending more options.
In my opinion, virtualenv is the only _real_ option. It makes pip simple and
managable so we know exactly where the dependencies for this app is
installed. Running pip without virtualenv (with or without --user) can
easily create situations that are very hard to recover from.
I added this option as it came up on IRC (Andrew suggested it), but
wouldn't mind removing it again.
Let's add a paragraph in the beginning briefly describing the options
with pros/cons as Mads suggested, and then discuss the virtualenv
solution first and the standard pip second. With this order, we can
leave the --user suggestion; the cons would have to be clear from the
intro paragraph.
What do you think?
Perfect!
/Mads
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