Re: [Kc] PHP guys?

[ironicface]

Whenever I tell anyone about coding in Perl, they always complain about arcane syntax and cultural style.
I think what Perl is suffering from is coming from a cultural approach that was/is more about being a Unix Geek, than anything else.
The other thing, of course, is the less than elegant object oriented syntax, which of course Moose seeks to address.

Another thing you see a lot of is people wanting simplification of their presentation, rather than their code functionality.
Fewer syntactical cues.
I find that potentially negative for long term maintenance, but for young coders, the elegant visual presentation seems to be very appealing.

And Perl in a way suffers from its flexibility, at the same time that it can be a strength, if you can sort out the resulting confusion of the ecosystem.
(And ecosystem is a big issue now a days. Perl should have a tremendous advantage there. But Cpan, while massive, is not as easy to parse as some of the other ecosystem storehouses.)

Just my thoughts.

Teal

On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Stephen Clouse <stephenclo...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:04 AM, David Nicol <davidni...@gmail.com> wrote:

What does Stephen Clouse have against PHP? 

http://me.veekun.com/blog/2012/04/09/php-a-fractal-of-bad-design/

That is an excellent rant. PHP appears to have been optimized for bureaucratic embedding. The "PHP guy" sets something up that sort of works, and then remains there extending it for years and years. So is there an alternative to simply ignoring the many job postings looking for PHP-competent hackers? Offer to rewrite the PHP stuff in something else? By tomorrow? Not practical.

 

So you're over autoconverting scalars? Or is that feature now available enough other places. 

You lost me somewhere.

I was replying to "Moose seems like the only thing Perl has going for it any more." The weak typing was what

made it interesting to me when i first encountered it, so long ago; I guess I was trying to imply a cheerful question, please share what aspects Perl used to have, that aren't fun any more? 

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