https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415627

--- Comment #6 from Tymond <[email protected]> ---
Actually it's different from that I described: it looks like system information
is written at the top of the log in the window, so it can look like I described
but the reason is different and the system information at the top is actually
current.

My issues with that:
- there is no system information written for every session which I guess might
be helpful sometimes
- it's confusing in my opinion.

I would prefer it if it was in two different menu entries with one that only
shows the current system information (for convenience for bugs that don't
require the full log) and one that shows the full log with system information
one per every session (when it's needed or when the user lost their files
etc...).

More precisely, I'm working on it right now :) We had a discussion with Rebecca
and Ivan, Rebecca thinks it would be useful, Ivan is fine with that and thinks
that the log should contain system info as well, Wolthera is also fine with
what I suggested.

(The beginning of the conversation is cut a bit)
(I marked important sections with [!] at the beginning)
    <tiar-ty> ivanyossi|log: in older versions it showed just system
information
    <tiar-ty> ivanyossi|log: in 4.2.8 it shows the log which contains both the
system information and some other info
    <tiar-ty> now boud changed it so first it prints out the system information
and then the log, which can contain system info as well if an older Krita was
launched...
    <ivanyossi|log> tiar-ty: the currect settings?
    <tiar-ty> ivanyossi|log: Krita version, Qt version etc
    <tiar-ty> in my opinion it should be changed so there are two menu entries:
Help -> System infomation, and Help -> Krita log, and log should have both
system information and the log as it was done in 4.2.8 and before, because it's
useful
    <tiar-ty> because then (1) if you want a quick access for system info for
current Krita, you check in system info
    <tiar-ty> (2) log contains Krita version so it's easily checked which parts
of logs are for which versions
    <ivanyossi|log> tiar-ty: so system information should only have the system
information once?
    <tiar-ty> ivanyossi|log: yes; only for the current instance of Krita
    <tiar-ty> I believe so
[!] <ivanyossi|log> hmmm, but for asking for help we usually prefer having both
always attached
    <tiar-ty> I mean, boud already made it this way
    <tiar-ty> ivanyossi|log: yes
    <tiar-ty> that's another thing
    <tiar-ty> the log should contain both as it was in 4.2.8
    <tiar-ty> ivanyossi|log: right now both branches has it this way that
system information is separated from the log and just written in GUI at the top
of the log, which makes no sense in my opinion
    <tiar-ty> I mean, it does make *some* sense, but it would be better in a
different way
    <tiar-ty> and I'm proposing two menu entries, one with just current system
info, one with log and system infos written for every session for the last ten
sessions
[!] <rebecca2525> I'd find that useful
[!] <rebecca2525> Like the time I crashed the beta survey with my huge log 
when only the system info was needed ;)
    <tiar-ty> rebecca2525: yes
[!] <rebecca2525> Or for some bug reports where I know if the log helps or not
    <tiar-ty> and a lot of times we just need to know Krita and Qt version and
that's it
    <tiar-ty> and OS
    <tiar-ty> rebecca2525: exactly, that's the point
    <ivanyossi|log> All I get is text for copy in system info for bug report.
    <tiar-ty> rebecca2525: do you think having two menu entries would be
enough, or should I make one dialog with two tabs, system info, log? I think
for users two menu entries might be easier
[!] <ivanyossi|log> but i can see the usefulness of having only system
information in another option
[!] <rebecca2525> Yeah, two menu entries would also be quicker to explain
[!] <rebecca2525> tabs are easier to overlook
    <tiar-ty> easier made as well :)
    <tiar-ty> I will do that then
    <tiar-ty> scottyp_win: ^ ? raghukamath Wolthera_laptop , not sure if anyone
else would be interested
    <ivanyossi|log> tiar-ty: :)
[!] <Wolthera_laptop> tiar-ty: I'm fine with it :)

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