https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435170
--- Comment #13 from RedBearAK <redb...@redbearnet.com> --- (In reply to Natalie Clarius from comment #12) > Re. ยง2: I was not talking about activation and the tab-grave transition > issue, but raising and the singling out a window issue. If I understood you > correctly, you want to be able break the pattern of raising all windows of > an application together by activating a single window of an application with > Alt+Grave. That's the inconsistency I'm questioning. Ah. But I don't see it as inconsistent. If you don't bother to switch to Alt+Graving, all windows are always kept together in GNOME. But if you do take the extra step of moving to Alt+Grave in the middle of Alt+Tabbing then the GNOME devs decided, "Oh, I guess the user just wants a single window this time." It's a hybrid mode that takes the best of both macOS app switching and Linux/Windows window switching. Even in macOS, you can do the right-click context menu or direct click method. But that means you have to take an extra, unusual step to make it happen. If you stick to Cmd+Tab or clicking on the whole Dock icon in macOS, and macOS sticks to keeping all the app windows together. No problem in either case. But there is the flexibility to just grab a single window if/when you really need to. Think of a situation where you might want to just see a single Dolphin window to be able to drag a file onto a Firefox window. If you have several Dolphin windows open and spread all over the screen, they may obscure the browser window and make the drag-and-drop action difficult if you bring the whole group forward in front of the browser window. This is one of the drawbacks of grouping application windows. On rare occasions you simple _don't_ want them all together. I escape the grouped-windows model using one of these methods probably much less than 5% of the time, maybe as little as 1%, but when I do I appreciate that it exists as an option. It's just not something I've ever thought of as being difficult or confusing to the overall issue of keeping app windows together 99% of the time. Simpler task switching, until I need to do something very specific, then I have to make slightly more effort. I see it all as very logical and consistent. Although, macOS is the only environment that has the consistency to keep you "inside" that same application if you happen to close the "isolated" window. In that limited sense, GNOME can produce a bit of inconsistency as it dumps you into a different app. But when you isolated a window and then wanted to close it, quite often that meant you wanted to switch back to a different app anyway, so this hasn't caused me too much of a problem when moving between macOS and GNOME. A little, but not too much. Nothing like the complete lack of app-based switching. I submitted a new bug about the unexpected window activation when transitioning to Alt+Grave. Tried to be as clear as possible with the instructions, so hopefully others can see it the way I see it. But I'm expecting to see a lot of confusion and "Meh?" responses. It's not exactly a showstopper bug. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=454413 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.