https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=455141

--- Comment #3 from [email protected] ---
> To confirm, you are logging out and logging back in again rather than 
> rebooting, right?

Indeed.

> If so, does rebooting instead work?

Not tested, but if  systemctl stop [email protected]  works, I would assume
that a reboot also would work. Do you think it is worth testing reboot
specifically (I'd have to reenable systemdBoot etc to test this).

> Can you upgrade to 5.25 and see if that fixes it for your log out+log in 
> scenario?

5.25 is still in testing in Arch. I'll look into it as soon as it is
stabilised. I really don't want to switch to testing.

> but it's from the same instance so has the same permissions

So why does this work properly in Cinnamon that to the best of my knowledge use
systemd for the user session, just like Gnome? I haven't tested Gnome itself
though (it has been a long time since I used it and I have no wish to install
modern Gnome if I can at all avoid it).

> running newgrp should fix it?

Yes, but that works even if you don't log out and back in again. However, that
starts a nested shell (you could exec newgrp, but it would still only affect
that tab in your terminal emulator).

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