https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982
--- Comment #246 from doom...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Luca from comment #243) > To be honest I don't understand some of the logic in this discussion. > > Are we really asking that KDE changes system's locales, making up some > customized/able version? Personally I don't think so. > > Several KDE apps provide a kind of TIME INFORMATION. I think we're asking to > make this "time information" customizable. As I see it, this doesn't imply > any POSIX changes. The system's locales offer several fine-grained > variables, like month number or minutes. We're asking that KDE apps allow > the users to combine these pieces of time information from the locale in > ways that can be convenient for different apps. > > For instance, I might want the system-tray clock to show "month-day/hour" > with particular separators. Or I might want – for whatever reason – Dolphin > to display the time-information column about files only with "year-day". > > It's only natural that different apps, for their very nature, may require > different choices and display of time information. And the user may want to > customize this even more depending on professional use or whatever. > > So I don't understand when Nate > (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=340982#c235) says > > "However at the moment KDE's developers do in fact want to have KDE's apps > play nicely with the world around them." > > What does "play nicely" mean? I don't think we're asking that KDE apps > internally store – or share with other apps – locales in any strange ways. > We're asking for customizability of how locales info is combined and > displayed. > > Thunderbird, for example, allows users to display time information in the > "Date" column in a user-defined way > (https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customize-date-time-formats- > thunderbird). Or, as a different example on the same concept, Emacs let me > customize how to display the file-name information, for example displaying > "file-name/[last folder in folder tree]". This doesn't mean that Emacs is > changing the internal file system. > > Why is there so much hang-up about "short-date" and "long-date"? Just let me > customize which time data from the locales I want displayed on a Dolphin > "Modified" column, for instance. Thank you for putting this in a way I wish I had the patience and eloquence to do! Yeah I sincerely doubt anybody in this decade long thread actually wanted to change the underlying system locale, just display information from it differently in various places in a user defined way. (Which is, funny enough, how a lot of other DEs and programs handle things.) I know I've been something of a latecomer grouch here, but I too really do appreciate all the work and such that has gone into KDE over the years and all the volunteers contributing what they can. It's this appreciation and love for the whole free software thing that makes bugs like this long-standing one a little more irritating. You don't bother complaining about things you don't really care about, do you? :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
