https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=488828

--- Comment #10 from Blazer Silving <[email protected]> ---
Thanks for the bookkeeping, I've followed that ticket as well. Hate to be a
broken record, but I'm going to continue to strongly assert that a choice of
multiple layouts is the way to go here, and that will be the focus of this
ticket. 

Can't suggest any further improvements to the new layout. As a replacement for
the mostly-broken former "Closest" layout, this new one works as written on the
tin aside from the spacing/padding in this initial take. There is no current
way to hack or force the new layout algorithm to resemble Natural. It's a fixed
Closest for lack of better label. 

Those grid-like layouts follow Windows/GNOME behavior, and that's fine and
dandy for users that prefer that way. 

The Natural Layout follows the behavior of Mac OS Mission Control, that's the
difference. It's binary, day and night, 0 and 1. 

Natural worked. The behavior reported in >>BUG 477833 is very close if not
identical to how Mac OS handles window management, a few bugs could have been
addressed without simply scrapping the whole layout. 

One size can't fit all, especially when Plasma has offered two options for
ages, since well before my time. Anecdotal but one of the main reasons I
started using Plasma daily was due to annoyance with Windows's grid-like Task
View layout. Kwin had the attractive Natural layout with Present Windows and
Desktop Grid, and it fell into my workflow right away. Overview was icing on
the cake when it was released and smoothed out (it resembles Mac OS even
closer, and better fits my job workflow). 

There should be two distinct layout options with user choice between the two.
Can't say it any more clearly. 

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>From >>BUG 450263, the report that drove this change in the first place. 

> In the effect options, there's an option to switch the layout between 
> Natural/Closest modes. 
> There's no explanation of what those options actually mean and the names are 
> not self-explanatory. 
> Maybe an information icon (i), like is present in some other KCMs could be 
> added to explain what they do.

Yeah, that follows! While intrepid users can just switch back and forth between
the two to get an understanding of what the difference is, Plasma places an
emphasis on using better language/human interface so that's the smart way to
handle this. "Natural" or "Scatter" can describe the Mac-like design, and
"Grid-like" can describe the new currently-unnamed layout, with a radio button
toggle between the two, and tooltips or visuals on the difference. 

I've brainstormed ways to integrate both layouts back into the system, and with
any kind of positive response, I'll start tinkering and trying to get that
working. Really want to help improve this instead of just griping :)

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