On Friday 18 July 2014 11:07:49 Jos Poortvliet wrote: > On Thursday 17 July 2014 10:50:04 Mario Fux wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 17. Juli 2014, 10.16:43 schrieb Jos Poortvliet: > > > > Morning > > > > [snip] > > > > > > +1 too, but I would in addition like to have the "Sponsor KDE..." or > > > > whatever entry in the Help menu, close to nobody will find such stuff > > > > in > > > > "About...". > > > > > > True. Note that instead of 'donate' or 'sponsor', I'd prefer to have a > > > link to 'support KDE' or 'contribute to KDE', and have it go to a page > > > about more than donating. Give quick links to ppl to tweet, like etc on > > > social media (bit like this: http://owncloud.org/promote/ ) and a link > > > to our pages on how to get involved. In short - it should be about > > > helping out in general. > > > > To be honest I don't like this idea. Don't make it to difficult to > > donate. > > It's already finding it under "Help" -> "Donate to/sponsor KDE" -> then > > you'd get a window with our donation page where you decide on the amount > > (with a good default amount) of money and press the donate button. > > > > I think it's impeding and makes it to complicate to have there a website > > with a lot of text one needs to read or at least get an overview to see > > where one could donate. I agree that donations and other contributions > > are > > equally valuable but let's not make it too difficult and try to achieve > > everything in one go and in the end nothing at all. Contributing > > (technically, translation, promo, etc.) is a broad and longer-term thing > > where-as a donation is (at least in the beginning) a quick and fast > > action. > > Yes, I agree it shouldn't get confusing... > > Then again, first asking people to tweet how they like KDE, then asking for > money makes use of this wonderful cognitive dissonance thing, increasing > the chance of donation by about 30% I believe. The question then is if > that 30% compensates for the added complexity... > > We can even experiment, if we want. I think the term 'contribute'
Or support of course, might be the best. After saying each of these words 10 times, however, they all sound silly so now I'm confused. > is better > than donate in any case, but we can have two different windows pop up > (after all, it goes via a browser to kde.org anyway, right?) and have one > have just an amount and a pay button; perhaps with a picture of a > hackathon or whatever*. And another one a little more elaborate with links > to other ways of helping out - see what works best based on some > statistics. Statistics can solve any dispute, haven't you heard? > > ;-) > > > > * A starving hacker? or a cute, sad looking dragon? A duck swimming in > money probably gives the wrong impression... Of course, we can always > resort to ponies and unicorns farting rainbows, Martin would certainly > quickly mock something up in QML. > > > Oh and I like very much the idea of Boud to add right most (RTL: > > left-most) this "Donate to/sponser KDE" action/button to the tool bar of > > most of our apps. > > > > And btw I somehow plan to have a photo session or two in Randa where I'd > > like to see my son and some other KDE people in front of the camera and > > some tablets, touch screens or other computers to get some nice pictures > > for a new donation page. > > > > That's it from me for the moment > > Mario > > > > PS: Of course I think as well that a button/menu entry to "Contribute to > > KDE" makes absolute sense but please add it alongside the "Donate button" > > and don't mix it. > > Let's stick with one button and think about the best term. Donate is more > precise than 'contribute' but the latter allows us to find out how we can > wrangle the most money out of our user base*... > > * that makes me sound evil, doesn't it? But it is all for the Good Cause!
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