El Dimarts, 30 de desembre de 2014, a les 19:29:47, Bruno Coudoin va escriure: > Le 30/12/2014 18:49, Albert Astals Cid a écrit : > > El Dilluns, 22 de desembre de 2014, a les 21:00:25, Mario Fux va escriure: > >> Good morning dear KDE people > >> > >> After KDE's first fundraiser (crowdfunding attempt) in 2012 [1] we had > >> (or > >> it's still ongoing) six more this year: > >> - For the Randa Meetings 2014 [2] > >> - For Krita: open source digital painting | Accelerate Development [3] > >> - For Tupi: 2D Animation Software for Everyone! [4] > >> - Make the World a Better Place! - KDE End of Year 2014 Fundraising [5] > >> - New Unified Graphics for GCompris [6] > >> - Kommander [8] > >> > >> Money is not an easy topic > >> but avoiding it doesn't solve the problems. And if people don't know > >> about > >> certain things like that they should coordinate with KDE e.V. in the case > >> of money they won't. So it's on us to tell the community and tell new > >> members of the community. > > > > This is an interesting topic too and i wanted to bring it up for some > > time. > > > > I'd say the type of fundraiser can be split into two types: > > * KDE generic > > > > - For the Randa Meetings 2014 > > - Make the World a Better Place! - KDE End of Year 2014 Fundraising > > > > * Project specific > > > > - For Krita: open source digital painting | Accelerate Development [3] > > - For Tupi: 2D Animation Software for Everyone! [4] > > - Make the World a Better Place! - KDE End of Year 2014 Fundraising [5] > > - New Unified Graphics for GCompris [6] > > - Kommander [8] > > > > I'm all for specific projects doing fundraisers for their own things > > (though as said in the previous email i'd like some more coordination > > happening), don't think i'm not. > > > > But, > > > > Sometimes that projects that have had project specific fundraisers request > > funds from the KDE eV to run a sprint. > > > > KDE eV funds are not unlimited, so for me sometimes it seems that those > > projects are being a bit unfair to the rest by running their own > > fundraisers and then also asking for money from the common pot. > > > > What would people think if for those projects that have run "big" > > fundraisers (we don't want to put off people that did a 100€ fundraiser) > > the KDE eV would only sponsor part of a sprint and the rest of the money > > should come from the money they raised independently? > > Hi, > > My feeling is that projects begging for money
I'd suggest you don't use "begging for money", it doesn't have a good sound ;) > one way or another are > either the most active or have a good plan for it. I don't understand what you mean with this sentence to be honest. > The rule you propose would 'punish' at KDE eV level these projects which > may be the best candidate for the requested fund. I don't think It would punish anyone, it think it makes money distribution fairer. > What concerns me is that some projects by their nature may be easier to > fund independently. Other low level project with deep or hidden code > which are of major importance for the KDE infrastructure are disadvantaged. > > Why don't we give KDE eV funds by comparing what the requester want to > do with the money and what is the added value to KDE as a whole. Because as i said, the world has a limited amount of money and so does the KDE eV. When project X asks money for itself instead of asking money for KDE eV, it's probable that if person Y donates, then person Y may not donate to general KDE eV fund raisers since he'll think (i already donated) so project X gets a donation and not the KDE eV. Then when project X does a sprint he is asking for funds that come from the KDE eV even if by running a "specialized fundraiser" it maybe made those funds to be smaller. Cheers, Albert > > Bruno. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > kde-community mailing list > kde-community@kde.org > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community _______________________________________________ kde-community mailing list kde-community@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community