On 15 February 2016 at 19:12, Ingo Klöcker <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sunday 14 February 2016 23:57:56 Alexander Neundorf wrote: > > On Saturday, February 13, 2016 13:12:52 Lydia Pintscher wrote: > > > On Sat, Feb 13, 2016 at 7:45 AM, Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer wrote: > > > I agree that integration within our projects is important. And I > > > believe it has suffered lately as the cohesion inside KDE became > > > less. My gut feeling is that this should go in the mission. > > > > > > > I would suggest a sentence like the following: > > > > “KDE aims to offer complete, well-integrated solutions – while > > > > connecting different platforms, devices and online services.” > > > > > > That sounds good to me. > > > > To me too, but I still miss the reference that it is about software > > with graphical user interfaces (GUI's can also have gesture or voice > > input etc.), which Olaf seems to imply too. > > I mean, we are not targetting e.g. sensor networks built from 8bit uCs > > communicating to some big online server, with no user intervention > > (which would fit that description too), or are we ? > > Please don't speak for me. You've made it absolutely clear that _you_ > are only interested in GUI. That's totally fine. We need people who > focus on (G)UI applications. But we also need people who focus on non- > GUI-stuff. A large part of Frameworks 5 is non-GUI-stuff. Akonadi (and > its spin-off) is non-GUI stuff. > > Therefore, I'm against a-priori excluding anybody who is not interested > in (G)UI applications from KDE by restricting ourselves in our vision to > (G)UI applications. > > Of course, the mission statement can mention that we _mostly_ (but not > entirely) focus on (G)UI applications and supporting libraries and > services. > > > >From another angle: it's something seriously not good if mature, nontrivial apps are not layered. Then, for sufficiently complex challenges (think PIM, IDEs, RADs) the architecture benefits from having purely non-GUI layers. It's a bit more forced by-design with the Qt Quick tech but should be encouraged also for the QWidget world that is the current stable reality for us, KDE. > Regards, > Ingo > > _______________________________________________ > kde-community mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-community > -- regards, Jaroslaw Staniek KDE: : A world-wide network of software engineers, artists, writers, translators : and facilitators committed to Free Software development - http://kde.org Calligra Suite: : A graphic art and office suite - http://calligra.org Kexi: : A visual database apps builder - http://calligra.org/kexi Qt Certified Specialist: : http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek
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