On Thursday 14 April 2016 16:18:30 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote: > On Donnerstag, 14. April 2016 15:26:10 CEST Mirko Boehm - KDE wrote: > > > On 14 Apr 2016, at 15:16, Jonathan Riddell <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > relative metric of numbers of installs not absolute numbers. So > > > I added a machine-id to the URL it checks which is the unique > > > value set at install time by systemd (/etc/machine-id) so now it > > > has a good idea of being able to count the number of installs. > > > > > > But KDE cares about privacy and it's in our Vision and I don't > > > want to be accused of violating that. But currently I can't see > > > how this can violate users privacy any more than an IP address
Storing IP addresses is controversial. Some people consider it personal information. That's why Google Analytics has a setting to set the last number of the IP addresses to 0. > > > can so I'm curious to hear what arguments might come up against > > > this. > > > > I believe that as long as we are transparent about it, this should > > be fine. Maybe, just maybe, there could be a way to turn it of for > > very privacy-sensitive users. > > Any potentially privacy-sensitive information transfer should be > opt-in, not opt-out. > I'd assume that the vast majority of users will allow it (given that > it's not personally identifiable and they trust their distro), but > opt-in puts you on the safe side. IMO it must be opt-in. One of my main reason for using Free Software is my (probably naïve) hope that Free Software does not phone home at all. At least not, unless I have explicitly allowed it to do so. Regards, Ingo
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