I have the same concerns as Christian. 1. We used to run internal Nokia IRC servers professionally for a long time, so does Mozilla, etc.
2. I also do not understand the insecure claims. 3. As a matter of personal preference, I like some non-modern features better than modern. I am not against having Matrix as well in communities like this, but if the uninitiated reads this about IRC, they are badly mislead. On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 12:43 PM Christian Loosli <[email protected]> wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2019, 13:36:37 CET schrieb Paul Brown: > > Hi all, > > Hi Paul, > > > KDE has been looking for a better way of chatting and live-sharing of > > information for several years now. IRC has been a good solution for a > long > > time, but has centralized servers KDE cannot control, it is also insecure > > beg your pardon? Neither is true. IRC is decentralized, and whilst KDE has > no > control over the freenode servers (obviously), it would have been free to > have > their own. From what I gather the KDE matrix instance is sponsored and not > full control either. > > I'd also like to know how IRC is "insecure", in general and also in > contrast > to Matrix. Otherwise I kindly ask you to not throw such accusations > without > further explanation around. > > > • Unlike IRC, Matrix is an entirely decentralised public network and > > anyone can run a server. > > Again: that is simply wrong. IRC is decentralized, the protocol is > entirely > open and various ircds and services are open source, and everybody is able > to > run their own network. > > > So please head over to https://webchat.kde.org (or matrix.kde.org via > any > > other Matrix client!), grab an account and join #kde:kde.org. For more > > information, check out our Matrix wiki page which includes details on > how to > > configure desktop clients (https://community.kde.org/Matrix). > > > Let us know how you get on! > > Currently testing, I have > 1 minute loading times on searching and > joining > channels, and communicating with the appservice to change the IRC side > nick or > directly joining unlisted channels does not work (unfortunately no error > message at all, so I can provide nothing to debug. > > > Cheers > > > > Paul > > Kind regards, > > Christian > > > > >
