I don't think we're likely to achieve consensus on making the KDE community an escapist outlet where we can hide from the world around us.
Cheers, Eike On December 5, 2019 1:39:57 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli <[email protected]> wrote: >Kindly don't throw in false accusations, I don't dislike that >particular blog >post at all (probably it's even mostly my position), I dislike in >general that >things get more and more political, so you it's getting really hard to >find >projects and places where you don't have to deal with $topic (insert >controversial stuff like Brexit, Bolsonaro, Trump, Fidesz, ... I'm sure >every >country and region has its fair share) because you originally came to >these >places for something other than politics. > >As the bar has a different height for different people, I already made >a >suggestion: simply create a category for it and allow to filter, as we >already >allow to filter by language. > >Kind regards, > >Christian > >Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:36:36 CET schrieb Eike Hein: >> If and when the Planet becomes majority political content, that's a >problem >> we can acknowledge and deal with at that time I would say. As a >community >> we're smart enough to understand that it's a different reality from >an >> occasional post. Let's have that trust. >> >> But let me say it again: We discussed this before. The hypothetical >you've >> laid out is not a new one. You're not explaining how the situation is >> different now from back then and why we need to review the consensus >we >> already had achieved, which was informed by other thoughts like >having the >> Planet be a place where we can get to know each other and the cost of >> losing a venue for that. The Planet is not a corporate outlet or a >news >> feed, it's a community aggregator. >> >> Starting a thread because you don't like a particular personal blog >post is >> not meeting the necessary bar. Let's not prolong it until you come up >with >> something. >> >> >> Cheers, >> Eike >> >> On December 5, 2019 1:26:58 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli ><[email protected]> >wrote: >> >Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:24:30 CET schrieb Eike Hein: >> >> But they don't, so your calculation is about solving a problem >that >> > >> >doesn't >> > >> >> currently exist. >> > >> >I consider that a tricky argument that leads to a slippery slope, >> >because >> >whenever people will at political stuff, it will be "but the other >> >person was >> >allowed, too!", so in my opinion it's a matter of fairness. >> > >> >> Cheers, >> >> Eike >> > >> >Kind regards, >> > >> >Christian >> > >> >> On December 5, 2019 1:21:08 PM GMT+01:00, Christian Loosli >> > >> ><[email protected]> >> > >> >wrote: >> >> >For me it's a rather simple calculation: if every contributor on >> > >> >planet >> > >> >> >would >> >> >post as many articles on politics as e.g. you do, the planet >would >> > >> >be >> > >> >> >simply >> >> >overcrowded with it. >> >> > >> >> >Given we already have filters for languages, maybe there could be >a >> >> >filter for >> >> >non-KDE stuff, so that people who to go planet.kde to read about, >> > >> >well, >> > >> >> >KDE, >> >> >could filter all that stuff out. >> >> > >> >> >Kind regards, >> >> > >> >> >Christian >> >> > >> >> >Am Donnerstag, 5. Dezember 2019, 13:04:35 CET schrieb Jonathan >> > >> >Riddell: >> >> >> Planet KDE exists to allow KDE people to share information >about >> >> > >> >> >themselves >> >> > >> >> >> as well as their KDE contributions. A hard Brexit will affect >KDE >> >> >> significantly which is why I include it here. The idea that >> > >> >talking >> > >> >> >about >> >> > >> >> >> politics is dangerous or anti-social really scares me and is >one >> >> > >> >> >reason why >> >> > >> >> >> the populists have taken over so much of the political >discussion >> >> >> currently. I often get people thanking me for my political >opinion >> >> > >> >> >blogs. >> >> > >> >> >> If you don’t want to read it then don’t read it. >> >> >> >> >> >> The rule we came up with is "The majority of content in your >blog >> >> > >> >> >should be >> >> > >> >> >> about KDE and your work on KDE. Blog posts about personal >subjects >> >> > >> >> >are also >> >> > >> >> >> encouraged since Planet KDE is a chance to learn more about the >> >> > >> >> >developers >> >> > >> >> >> behind KDE." I've never heard anyone suggest changes to that >> > >> >rule. >> > >> >> >> Jonathan >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 11:53, Christian Loosli <[email protected]> >> >> > >> >> >wrote: >> >> >> > Dear Community, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I'm 100% sure this topic came up in the past due to the same >> > >> >blog, >> > >> >> >but I >> >> > >> >> >> > can't >> >> >> > find it on the mailing list, so I assume it happened on >forums >> > >> >or >> > >> >> >chat: >> >> >> > currently the top blog post on planet.kde.org is about voting >> > >> >for a >> > >> >> >> > specific >> >> >> > political party. I understand that in these times there are >many >> >> > >> >> >countries >> >> > >> >> >> > with heated and important political debates, and some very >> >> > >> >> >important >> >> > >> >> >> > global >> >> >> > topics as well. However, these already occupy all the news >site. >> >> >> > Now if every blog appearing on the planet would target a >> > >> >political >> > >> >> >subject >> >> > >> >> >> > that is very important to the blogger, planet.kde.org would >be >> > >> >yet >> > >> >> >> > another >> >> >> > political news/opinions feed. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > If I want politics, I go to one of these. If I want to read >> > >> >about >> > >> >> >KDE, I >> >> > >> >> >> > go to >> >> >> > planet.kde.org. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Please dear bloggers: there are categories, and you can >choose >> >> > >> >> >which of >> >> > >> >> >> > your >> >> >> > blogs do show up on the planet. I know that some topics are >very >> >> > >> >> >important >> >> > >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > you and obviously you are free to blog about them, but please >> > >> >keep >> > >> >> >the >> >> > >> >> >> > planet.kde.org feed free of it, so it doesn't become a mess >> > >> >where >> > >> >> >it's >> >> > >> >> >> > hard to >> >> >> > find the content people actually go there for. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Thanks and kind regards, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Christian -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
