Hi Martin,
Le 2020-03-06 à 09:26, Martin Steigerwald a écrit :
Hi,
Martin Flöser - 06.03.20, 13:14:36 CET:
Am 2020-03-06 08:20, schrieb Nicolás Alvarez:
Apple can give its million appstore apps access to Google calendar
data, and Mozilla can let addons access email data, but we can't?
What do they do differently?
The only thing they do differently is that they have a permission
system in place. Doesn't apply for Thunderbird of course which means
we should look at their privacy policy. Though we should never ask
Google "Why is Thunderbird allowed?" as we don't want that
Thunderbird gets access revoked.
I ask a different question:
Why – at all – rely on a provider who dictates on who gets access to it
and who does not? Why – at all – rely on a provider who by doing so
creates a walled garden?
This whole thing KDEPIM / KMail not being permitted due to its privacy
policy – by a company which collects more data than probably anyone else
in the world, except other large companies like Facebook, Microsoft and
co probably – seems utterly ridiculous to me.
Sure, by all means, give a good, concise, clear privacy policy for
KDEPIM, yet, already as it is I trust KDE + KDEPIM 100000% more than
Google, Facebook, Microsoft and Co with my data. Cause I have seen KDE
project people value privacy *a lot*. That to the extent that I
basically stopped writing mails with anything personal to Google mail
accounts and accounts of some other very large providers whom I do not
trust with privacy. You don't scan through my mail to find out what
advertisement to sent my way for example. You do not generate profiles on
me by urging webmasters to include your stuff into about every large
website out there. You do not do all the nasty things.
Sure, I get it. App developers for Android do all kinds of privacy
violations all the time. And Google probably wants to protect users from
the worst of that. But if its data they have about users I feel they
practice a different standard. They want to protect data they store from
being accessed by others, but, what would be way more important, not
from themselves. KDE for sure is a lot more caring and proactive about
privacy and it is one reason I am using Plasma and KDEPIM.
So… I wonder… whether it would make sense for KDE to step up more for
those decentralized alternatives that really care about privacy¹. And
yeah, I know KDE, GNOME and a lot of other free software projects and
communities benefit a lot from money given by Google – mostly given to
Google for advertising. It is totally okay to be grateful for that… but
does it mean someone who works for free and in his spare time on KDEPIM
has to take care of satisfying Google's requirement for a privacy
policy?
No. I think KDEPIM could show a proper explanation if it has an
incompatibility. But it is not clear what is the context for the issue
discussed in this thread.
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Best,
--
Philippe Cloutier
http://www.philippecloutier.com
