El jue, 22 jul 2021 a las 2:50, Ben Cooksley (<[email protected]>) escribió: > > On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 10:57 AM Daniel A. Rodriguez > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 4:22 AM Noah Davis <noahadvs at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Thank you for doing this! >> >> >> >> I noticed that new documents created from the new file menu button use >> >> Microsoft Office formats (e.g., docx, xlsx). Can you swich the default >> >> formats to OpenDocument formats? >> >> > I'm afraid the native formats of OnlyOffice are the Microsoft Office format >> > files - which is also the format they work with internally. >> > It therefore doesn't allow changing the default file extension it will try >> > to create. >> > >> > (With regards to ODF editing it warns that there may be some fidelity >> > issues) >> > >> > You can however override the extension when creating and it will happily >> > respect that. >> > >> > Regards, >> > Ben >> >> I am not a KDE user but I consider this measure a big step backwards in >> terms of the defense of open standards that any project involved in free >> software should promote. > > > While I appreciate the sentiment, all we are talking about here is the > default extension on the file created by Nextcloud. > The full software stack - which is totally open source - is fully capable of > reading and writing ODF (subject to some fidelity warnings - which is normal > as i've different versions of LibreOffice render documents differently). > > A default extension is quite far from a big step backwards.
Well, at least it has a considerable impact. And not in a good way. >> You may not be aware, but there is a product developed in Taiwan that is >> available in a community version and provides full support for the only >> standard office document format: ODF. It's called OxOffice Online, it's a >> fork of LibreOffice Online with several improvements. In fact we are using >> it at the university where I work. >> >> I leave you the link, >> https://docs.ossii.com.tw/books/oxoffice-online-%E6%8A%80%E8%A1%93%E6%89%8B%E5%86%8A > > > Does one of those improvements include a switch to client side rendering? That's a question for the development team, but think it doesn't > One of the major weaknesses of LibreOffice Online is that it makes use of > server side rendering, which means over connections that have anything but > low latency you can actually see the tiles being refreshed - and typing does > not yield an immediate response. This has been a cause of substantial > complaints that Sysadmin has received regarding our present setup at > share.kde.org (and some of these have come from people in Europe, so even > ~50ms or so is too much for the server side rendering approach to be > workable). > > You can also see this on the Demo Nextcloud instance they have on their > website (or at least I can with my 300ms or so of latency to the servers - > something I don't see at all with our OnlyOffice setup) so this isn't a fault > caused by our deployment. Fair enough.
