Hi Joseph, Thanks a LOT for summarizing the discussions, it really helps.
@Bhushan Shah <[email protected]> Since there is a KDE India already on Discourse[1], I propose we remove/archive the kde-india mailing list. Cheers, Shantanu https://discuss.kde.org/c/local-communities/kde-india/19 On Tue, 23 May 2023 at 14:10, Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss <[email protected]> wrote: > Follow-up discussion to the post "Inactive mailing lists". > > tl;dr There are three topics discussed here: > > 1. For mailing list admins: *Suggestions For Information To Add To > Mailing List Descriptions* > 2. For mailing list communities: *Moving Certain Groups To Discourse?* > 3. For everyone: *Summary Of Prior Discussion About Inactive / > Infrequently Used Lists* > > As always, the discussion is open for your feedback and ideas! > > _1. Information To Add To Mailing List Descriptions_ > > If you are a list admin, consider adding the following to the mailing > list description. This way subscribers are well-informed about the > communication channels used for your project/community: > > * Other communication channels for this project and their intended > use (e.g., for announcements, user support, live chat, etc.) > * Relevant links for the project (e.g., website, wiki, etc.) > * Intended scope for the list (i.e., what it is for / not for) > * Policies regarding moderation, code of conduct, etc. > > For examples, see: > > * Energy-efficiency: > https://mail.kde.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/energy-efficiency > * Kde-soc: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-soc > * Visual-design: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/visual-design > > _2. Moving Certain Groups To Discourse?_ > > Beyond typical forum functionality, Discourse integrates well with email > and RSS. Something to consider for low-frequency mailing list groups: > there may be projects and communities that benefit by officially moving > communication to Discourse. Although I have no data to back up the > claim, I suspect having users interact on a more active platform could > generally increase engagement within KDE. > > A nice feature of Discourse is: for mailing list subscribers who wish to > continue receiving posts in their mail clients, it is possible to follow > discussions via RSS or by enable mailing list mode in Discourse. It > takes some setting up; see below for more. > > A few language and country-specific communities already have made a move > to Discourse. See: > > https://discuss.kde.org/c/local-com.munities/ > <https://discuss.kde.org/c/local-communities/> > > Some of these groups also have low traffic mailing lists. Unless current > list subscribers also move to Discourse, there is the risk of fracturing > the community as list subscribers are seperated from the people at the > forum. In this case, archiving and closing the infrequently-used mailing > list might be beneficial. Of course, that is for the list admin and > relevant community to decide. > > Info about using Discourse with email and RSS: > > * Users can enable "Mailing list mode", which allows one to receive > and respond to posts via email (i.e., just like a mailing list). By > default, users receive posts to /all/ categories -- limiting posts to > specific categories requires manually "muting" the other categories. See > the community wiki for more detail, including how to mute categories: > > https://community.kde.org/KDE.org/KDE_Forums#Mailing_List_Mode > > * Alternatively, one can follow specific categories, tags, etc. as an > RSS feed. Again, see the community wiki for details: > > https://community.kde.org/KDE.org/KDE_Forums#Following_RSS_Feeds > > _3. Summary: Prior Discussion About Inactive Mailing Lists_ > > Here are some bullet points from the discussion about inactive / > infrequently used mailing lists. For the full thread, go to: > > https://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-community/2023q2/007577.html > > * Some lists deliberately have archiving disabled, so an empty > archive is not necessarily an indicator of no activity. > * Some lists are primarily used for following bug reports (e.g., > *-bugs) or commits. > * Subscribing to a low traffic email list is rarely something people > notice, and the UI of mail clients rarely gets in the way. By contrast, > the UI of e.g. Matrix very much gets in the way of staying in 200 low > traffic channels. > * Low email traffic does not mean subscribers will not answer > appropriate posts sent to it. > * Unless current subscribers also make the move to a new channel, > moving discussion to a new platform risks separating the people who have > answers (the current subscribed people) with the people who have the > questions (the people redirected elsewhere). > * For lists that are unquestionably no longer in use, please file a > sysadmin ticket and they will get removed. > * See this ticket for mailing lists that have been or will be removed > as a result of the discussion: https://phabricator.kde.org/T16387 > > Cheers, > Joseph > > -- > Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss > KDE Internal Communications & KDE Eco Community Manager > OpenPGP: 8FC5 4178 DC44 AD55 08E7 DF57 453E 5746 59A6 C06F > Matrix: @joseph:kde.org > > Generally available Monday-Thursday from 10-16h CET/CEST. Outside of > these times it may take a little longer for me to respond. > > KDE Eco: Building Energy-Efficient Free Software! > Website: https://eco.kde.org > Mastodon: @[email protected] > > > > > -- Shantanu Tushar shantanu.io
