Thanks for weighing in, Albert! Anyone else?

On 19.11.24 10:16 PM, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
El divendres, 15 de novembre del 2024, a les 13:10:22 (Hora estàndard del
Centre d’Europa), Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss va escriure:
Anyone have opinions on this? Good idea? Bad idea?

I think it's a reasonable idea, but who is going to do the work?

I understand that with sysadmin support Arne from Green Coding Solutions would help set up the tool according to KDE's requirements.

See here for KDE's requirements:

  https://invent.kde.org/graphics/okular/-/merge_requests/1030#note_995641

And Arne's reply:

  https://invent.kde.org/graphics/okular/-/merge_requests/1030#note_1031692

Perhaps we can discuss it at the meetup tonight.

Cheers,
Joseph

Cheers,
   Albert


On 13.11.24 12:33 PM, Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss wrote:
Hi! I'd like to ask the KDE community to give feedback on a possible eco
initiative within KDE. The Open Source company Green Coding Solutions
has a new tool called Eco-CI to estimate the carbon footprint of the CI/
CD pipeline. Is there support for adopting this tool within the KDE
community (e.g., for Okular, as proposed)?

FYI if you are interested in talking with the developers directly, join
the KDE Eco online meetup next week (see below) where Arne and Didi will
be presenting.

As I see it, benefits of integrating Eco-CI into the development

pipeline include:
   - Maximal transparency about the embodied carbon of a software

releases in KDE.

   - Opportunities for data-driven improvement.
   - Quantifiable differences for any changes made to the development

process.

   - KDE will be a leader in providing data about the carbon footprint of

our software development.

Drawbacks could include:
   - KDE may be the only organization providing such data and it could

give negative impressions abut our environmental impact (to note: I
don't think this is necessarily a good argument, but I can see it being
one).

   - Discouraging use of the CI/CD pipeline could negatively impact

software quality.

Other benefits? Drawbacks? Do you support the idea?

More info can be found about Green Coding Solutions and the Eco-CI tool
at this MR in the Okular repository: https://invent.kde.org/graphics/
okular/-/merge_requests/1030

"""
[Eco-CI] integrates into the GitLab CI/CD pipeline and estimates the
energy and CO2 consumption of the pipeline by utilizing a Machine
Learning model trained on real server energy data from SPECpower

The tool creates awareness of the energy cost and carbon emissions of
CI/CD pipelines and empowers developers to create action for more
sustainability.
"""

If you want to discuss with the Eco-CI developers directly, join us next
Wednesday 20 November 19h CET (see below for details).

Cheers,
Joseph

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: online meetup Wed. 20 Nov. 18h UTC | Green Coding Solutions:
"Eco-CI" and "Powerletrics"
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2024 12:40:14 +0100
From: Joseph P. De Veaugh-Geiss <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]

After a short three-month hiatus, the next KDE Eco online meetup will be
Wednesday *20 November* 18-19h UTC! I am excited to announce that Green

Coding Solutions will present two of their new measurement tools:
   - "Eco-CI" to measure energy consumption of CI/CD pipeline
   - "Powerletrics" Linux kernel extension for power usage estimations

Eco-CI has been suggested for integration into the Okular's CI/CD
pipeline. For discussion, see: https://invent.kde.org/graphics/okular/-/
merge_requests/1030

See below for more details.

Minutes from past meetups can be found here: https://invent.kde.org/
teams/eco/opt-green/-/tree/master/community-meetups

_Overview_

*When*: Wed. 20 November 18-19h UTC

*Where*: https://meet.kde.org/b/jos-l59-2i1-9yt

*Topic*: Green Coding Solutions tools "Eco-CI" (CI/CD pipeline) and
"Powerletrics" (Linux kernel extension)

*Pad*: Further ideas are collected at this pad, please add ideas of your

own:
         https://collaborate.kde.org/s/cactBt4frrfTjbW

*Details*:

Eco-CI [0] is an open source GitHub / GitLab Plugin that estimates the
energy and carbon emissions of a CI/CD workload. It hooks into the
pipeline and will print a summary directly in the logs or as a
downloadable artifact. Arne, one of the core developers, will present
the tool and show some numbers from repos, including their average
emissions, to get a feel for the importance of the topic. A discussion
of integrating Eco-CI into Okular's GitLab repository will follow the
presentation.

Powerletrics [1] is a kernel extension that brings per process power
usage estimations to Linux. It is modelled after the MacOS tool
powermetrics which developers can use to gain insights into their
environmental impact of their code. With modern ICT infrastructure using
more and more resources, it is important that there are easy tools for
monitoring and optimisation available so that we don’t waste precious
resources.

[0] https://github.com/green-coding-solutions/eco-ci-energy-estimation
[1] https://github.com/green-kernel/powerletrics





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