On Sunday, July 24, 2011 16:05:22 Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > you're saying that anyone using a KDE application should also install > the KDE system settings shell because it is the only way to configure > KDE *applications*? Qt, like GTK+ uses the same XSETTINGS protocol, to > allow interoperability between toolkits on the same environment -- > that's what we use to bridge stuff like the icon theme, the > application font name, and other settings shared across desktops.
replying only to k-c-d as i hav eno interest in getting involved in the cat fight, but i would like to add some information to this discussion: * what Emmanuele writes above is not fully accurate. i have had to on more than one occassion run the GNOME control panels to get specific features working properly after installing GNOME applications. he describes a perfect or near-perfect world in which we do not yet exist. * Martin Gräßlin is correct that systemsettings is a workspace application; any kcm's that are required by non-workspace apps must be usable via kcmshell4 which is included in the runtime for this purpose. it is not perfect, in terms of giving users of KDE applications a perfect experience in, say a GNOME workspace, but then that's probably why we also recommend the KDE workspaces ;). but NO KDE application outside of the kde-workspace module may reasonably expect that ANY workspace app is installed. period. * if our users complain about the results, we can easily point them to the decison made by the GNOME community and let the fault lay on that decision. it is not our job to police everyone who writes free software, even if their decisions do not fit ours. we can point them to kcmshell4 and shrug our shoulders, noting that in the choice of GNOME3 as a shell, the user has made a decision with several collateral effects. * technical solutions to the underlying problems of needing multiple control panel applications installed simultaneously, not being able to extend the workspace control panels in a workspace-neutral way and not sharing technologies we probably ought to anyways for the sake of our users (the "SecretService" thing being a god example: when will we finally see that in git? :) are ways to improve the situation over the long term and the things we ought to be spending time and energy on. so regardless of what anyone may feel about the sociability / ethics of recent naming choices, the above are the useful points in terms of "being able to make things better for our users". -- Aaron J. Seigo humru othro a kohnu se GPG Fingerprint: 8B8B 2209 0C6F 7C47 B1EA EE75 D6B7 2EB1 A7F1 DB43 KDE core developer sponsored by Qt Development Frameworks
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