On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Martin Gräßlin <mgraess...@kde.org> wrote: > On Tuesday 14 February 2012 19:12:58 Alexander Neundorf wrote: >> On Tuesday 14 February 2012, Aaron J. Seigo wrote: >> > On Monday, February 13, 2012 17:51:23 Shaun Reich wrote: >> > > hate to chime in as well, but i think replacing the Windows shell >> > > should definitely be something that's looked at. imho it makes a lot >> > > of sense. face it, the Windows shell sucks. >> > >> > how many windows users realistically change the shell, even though it's >> > already possible now and such shells exist?
well, to be fair it tends to be quite difficult, most are for-paid, and the ones that aren't require doing a bunch of dll helll stuff. >> > >> > this is even smaller than the # of people who really dislike the windows 7 >> > shell THAT much. >> > >> > compare with: how much effort is required to make this REALLY work well? >> >> Especially considering the man power we have under Windows. It's not much. agreed, we need more devs working on windows, definitely. > what we also should keep in mind is that our KDE Plasma Workspaces consists of > more than just plasma-desktop. Many components which are an important part of > the Plasma Workspace's user experience are strongly tied to X11 without any > chance of ever getting ported to Windows (port to Wayland will make that > hardly better). While it is possible to get plasma-desktop running on Windows > you will never be able to get the Plasma Workspaces running on Windows. It > will always be just a very bad rip-off of what we have on X11/Wayland. > > Personally I would like to see strong investments on the application view to > use it as a vehicle to get more users to the real system. "You love KDE > Marble? Did you know that KDE offers more software? Check it out here > $linktolivecdofrandomdistribution" :-) > > true. yes, i would definitely agree that apps are more important. the window manager being non-portable did not occur to me, that would indeed cause lots of headaches. -- Shaun Reich, KDE Software Developer (kde.org)