On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Sebastian Kügler <se...@kde.org> wrote: > On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 16:07:48 Myriam Schweingruber wrote: >> So IMHO these lists should be visible in the mailiman/listinfo, with a >> description. There already is a lot of criticism about hidden mailing >> lists with unknown agendas among the KDE community, a minimum of >> transparency about what list exist and what the lists are about is not >> asking too much. > > I think with respect to that, much of it is probably idle conspiracy theorism, > don't pay too much attention to it. It's usual the less useful people who find > the time to complain about that. (Makes me wonder about their agendas, but in > fact -- not really.) > > Mailinglist which aren't meant for public consumption are not very useful in > the list info, that only attracts spammers, adds a lot of overhead for the > moderators, and doesn't add anything other than some false sense of > transparency (realistically, it achieves the opposite).
I am a moderator for several mailing lists, some of these for the fsfe and those have most likely an equal amount of spam traffic than KDE lists. Worse even for the 3 mailing lists I moderate in the *ubuntu space, it sometimes peaks at 30 spam messages a day for one of them, but it is easily handled with listadmin and quite fast, so not something I consider "much overhead". Part of the morning routine with a cup of coffee :) "A false sense of transparency" - I don't see what you mean by that, there already are mailing lists with private archives in the listinfo and I don't see how that would cause people to try to obscure things. But maybe I misunderstand what you mean > > I understood your email as attempt to sort out the mailinglist "mess" (is > it?)... Yes, that was definitely also part of the plan, thanks for the information about the ones that can be removed. Regards, Myriam -- Proud member of the Amarok and KDE Community Protect your freedom and join the Fellowship of FSFE:done http://www.fsfe.org Please don't send me proprietary file formats, use ISO standard ODF instead (ISO/IEC 26300)