> On May 7, 2013, 12:50 p.m., Dominik Haumann wrote:
> > The patch itself is fine and most likely does not introduce regressions in 
> > terms of misbehavior.
> > 
> > Still, is never showing an icon the way to go? Another way to work around 
> > this by default would be an additional function called 
> > KMessageWidget::setShowIcon(bool).
> > 
> > In fact, I've recently been thinking that being able to set custom icons 
> > also may be a good idea, along with setting a custom color for the message 
> > widget. Maybe one could ex extend MessageType, i.e.: 
> > setMessageType(Custom). Along with setIcon() and setPalette() or similar. 
> > Then, the developer would have more control over the colors showing up in 
> > the Kate views. A disadvantage of this is, however, that this leads to 
> > inconsistent ui's.
> > 
> > It this is needed, this patch works against this, though.
> 
> Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
>     It could be nice to be able to use a custom icon which would be adapted 
> to the context of the message. But I think the widget still works without it 
> for now, and getting rid of it has its advantages (fixing confusion, saving 
> space). An alternative to this fix would be to replace the icon with 
> something less button-like. The only icon I think would work here is the 
> "dialog-warning" one, which is already used with KMessageWidget::Warning 
> type. Any other idea?
>     
>     Exposing access to the palette would indeed be dangerous for consistency. 
> Can you explain in which situation you would want control over the colors?
> 
> Thomas Lübking wrote:
>     What about making the icon a "watermark"?
> 
> Dominik Haumann wrote:
>     Using icons as watermark was already discussed years ago. I didn't read 
> the entire thread, but on the following link you can find a url to an image 
> showing a watermark icon in the background. The thread is very long, and it 
> the end nothing came out of it apparently:
>     http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=120204190217471&w=2
> 
> Dominik Haumann wrote:
>     > Exposing access to the palette would indeed be dangerous for 
> consistency. Can you explain in which situation you would want control over 
> the colors?
>     
>     Not really: We just had once someone on kwrite-devel (iirc) complaining 
> about the colors. But if you ask me, the colors are fine for the use cases 
> right now.
> 
> Aurélien Gâteau wrote:
>     I don't like watermarks, they look too noisy. Having thought about this 
> patch more, I would like to keep the ability to set the icon. What about 
> removing all icons by default but adding an "icon" property?
>     
>     This would fix the confusion for KMessageWidget::Error and still saves 
> space while giving the ability to set icons more adapted to the widget 
> message when there is a need for it.

I think we also need a neutral message type that uses the window/button 
background color (as a gradient, of course) as widget background for displaying 
things that aren't really an "information" but rather "progress" such as the 
Kate "document is still loading" message.

And for Kate I could think of many cases where, instead of using the generic 
warning icon or no icon at all, using a more specific one could improve 
"first-sight-recognizability" such as 'object-locked' for when the file has 
been opened read-only, or 'character-set' when there's encoding issues.


- Kai Uwe


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> (Updated May 6, 2013, 8:59 p.m.)
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> 
> Review request for Dolphin, Kate and kdelibs.
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> 
> Description
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> 
> This avoids confusion between the decoration icon and the close button, 
> especially when type is KMessageWidget::Error. This happens for example with 
> Dolphin when an error happens while trying to connect to an non available 
> host.
> This change also has the nice side-effect of leaving more space for the 
> widget text.
> 
> 
> Diffs
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>   kdeui/widgets/kmessagewidget.cpp a52316726233a22929ce8ad3aff60b9ccc5f9b85 
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> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/110327/diff/
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> 
> Testing
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> Tested with kmessagewidgetdemo, Dolphin and Kate.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Aurélien Gâteau
> 
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