> On April 20, 2015, 10:36 p.m., Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > What would likely be confusing is that the two button modes have different 
> > interaction flows: The "End Process" mode requires to first select a 
> > process and then press the button to work, whereas the "Kill specific 
> > window" mode requires to first press the button and then select the window 
> > to kill, and users have no easy way to understand how each one works and 
> > why they work differently.
> > 
> > The ellipsis in the label "End Process..." adds to that confusion. It 
> > indicates that further input is necessary before the action can take 
> > effect. While the button does open a dialog to confirm killing the selected 
> > process, ellipses are actually reserved for actions where a dialog asks for 
> > new information, such as the "Save As..." button, not for actions that 
> > require confirmation.
> > 
> > To avoid this confusion, it should be possible to also click "End 
> > Process..." even if no processes has been selected, whuch would then ask 
> > the user to select the process to kill. This could theoretically be done 
> > similarly to the "Kill specific window" function: Click the "End 
> > Process..." button and then click the process in the list that you want to 
> > end. Alternatively, if no process had been selected when "End Process..." 
> > is clicked, a dialog could be opened where the process to kill would be 
> > selected. Of course the current flow of ending a process could and should 
> > still work.
> 
> Gregor Mi wrote:
>     Thanks for the feedback! The ellipsis in "End Process..." is the original 
> design. According to your explanation this was wrong in the first place. What 
> about removing the ellipses in both menu items so we will end up with "End 
> Process" and "Kill a specific window"?

"Kill specific window" does always need additional input until it really does 
something, doesn't it? As I understood it merely changes the cursor to the kill 
cursor and then the user has to select the window to kill, right?


- Thomas


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On April 20, 2015, 10:24 p.m., Gregor Mi wrote:
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> (Updated April 20, 2015, 10:24 p.m.)
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> 
> Review request for KDE Base Apps, Martin Gräßlin, John Tapsell, and Thomas 
> Pfeiffer.
> 
> 
> Repository: libksysguard
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> 
> Description
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> 
> Current situation:
> The "End Process..." button has a tooltip which says "To target a specific 
> window to kill, press Ctrl+Alt+Esc at any time." The keyboard shortcut is 
> hardcoded.
> 
> New:
> Replace the "End Process..." button with a drop-down button and a action 
> named "Kill a specific window..."
> 
> 
> Diffs
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> 
>   CMakeLists.txt 66899e577a03786d894423a8f1ce5b3aeed6de8a 
>   processui/CMakeLists.txt 7f87b85e0201e63d69070a71203bbb34851a79c6 
>   processui/ProcessWidgetUI.ui e50f55cf1813b00d49b1716023df487ffbd536e3 
>   processui/ksysguardprocesslist.cpp 450ca600b8aed7ca611ec638610b6c524c96080c 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/122249/diff/
> 
> 
> Testing
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> 
> 
> File Attachments
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> New End Process button with drop down arrow
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> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/01/28/16301e88-e21b-4358-9a63-a85dae5722bd__screenshot_default1.png
> new submenu
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> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2015/04/10/eeaecc88-20bc-46d6-9c65-50ba4a7c182a__submenu.png
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> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gregor Mi
> 
>

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