Hey all,

https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Building says:

> Warning: never start a KDE 4 application in this separate DBus session, it
> would conflict with your running Plasma 4 desktop.

I just did that accidentally and now my whole system seems to be completely 
fubared. Most applications freeze sooner or later with a backtrace like this:

(gdb) bt
#0  0x00007ffff3b6d5bd in poll () from /usr/lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x00007fffefab2028 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.3
#2  0x00007fffefab0ed8 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.3
#3  0x00007fffefa9a474 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.3
#4  0x00007fffefa9ae4d in ?? () from /usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.3
#5  0x00007fffefa9b42a in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_and_block () from 
/usr/lib/libdbus-1.so.3
#6  0x00007ffff4683e20 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4
#7  0x00007ffff4685dc2 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4
#8  0x00007ffff469166b in ?? () from /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4
#9  0x00007ffff46917a5 in QDBusInterface::QDBusInterface(QString const&, 
QString const&, QString const&, QDBusConnection const&, QObject*) ()
   from /usr/lib/libQtDBus.so.4
#10 0x00007ffff73ec3d2 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libkio.so.5

After a very long timeout (30s?) the apps figure out something is wrong and 
continue to work as intended.

Can we somehow improve this situation? I find it very ugly that by 
accidentally executing a globally installed KDE4 installation in my KF5 
environment, I can completely screw up my "host" system. 

Is there anything I should do differently maybe? How do other developers cope 
with this issue?

Bye
-- 
Milian Wolff
[email protected]
http://milianw.de

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