> On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Alan DuBoff wrote:
> [...] environment. Would be nice to be able to ssh into the
> servers and  compile...(Note to self: Track rails down with Craig)

KDE3.5.7 from ftp.uni-dortmund.de is w/o kdepim lib?

I thought an hour about this (quote), and hey, yes.
The question is: At the current status, why does KDE -> OSol project benefit 
from a common build host?  They (adi, lucas, stefan etc) are doing incremental 
bug find & fix & rebuild.  For that, any system is good enough, you just have 
to wait now and then when big parts need to rebuild.  No problem, read 
newspaper then or whatever.  For sure you have an unused SPARC machine with 40 
GB HDD for that at Sun.

Should you really suffer a lack of a reasonable SPARC build machine, I can set 
up a zone on my box for the folk here ASAP for ssh.  I know sometimes things go 
slow in big companies because you have to do all that paperwork etc pp.  And 
KDE is a community project.
I'm seriously asking/offering: why do you benefit from a common SPARC SMP build 
machine?
Iff you show me how we can do (and benefit from) parallel, count on my word.  
Iff you show me there are e.g. tests so I can see my changes fix this but break 
that by the outcome of common daily build, instead of visual tests, yes, 
immediate, I'm happy to come in and help, also with dumb parts of work, with 
fair hardware recources, with a little bit of experience.  Currently, what I 
see is that it's a valid approach to do incremental, live with the 
disadvantages of things that are like they are (auto,libtool etc), work on one 
module after the other, dispatch work between people by communicating on IRC.  
Each on his/her own machine and own source tree, so we can detect and fix small 
flaws in the build scripts.  Some nasty problems have been automated and solved 
already, tough work.  Software devel work  isnt trivial and you always have to 
keep an eye on keeping things simple and not solve problems in advance that may 
never happen (I do currently ;) ).
Iff it's really beneficial, you have an account on a zone on my SPARC box 
within a day or two. Or, send me a packet filter conf that restricts outgoing 
zone traffic to (ssl+)http/ftp/svn/dns and answers to incoming ssh, then it's 
done in an hour.  If the machine in Netherlands is fast enough, good.  Mine 
would only be better on parallel build, else it's slower.

Can someone estimate how fast project progress goes?
KDE is 4 MLOC, how many bugs do you find & fix on avg each week, how many are 
there on avg for each kLOC?

Cheers, Paul
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