> On May 26, 2016, 11:37 a.m., Matthew Dawson wrote: > > While I appreciate the source of this change (I've almost never hit F1 > > intending to open the doucmentation myself), I don't think a RR is the > > right place to discuss changes to our default shortcuts. This takes a > > small survey of a small section of our community. I think the VDG would > > probably be the best place to have a discussion about what help, if any, is > > triggered and on what shortcut (though if there is a better source I'm > > happy to take their input instead). Once there is a consensus, then I'm > > happy to have those changes implemented. > > > > Since there is a global way to disable F1 for people who find this annoying > > now, this is a -2 from me. People annoyed at F1 can fix their issue now > > without code changes while we figure out the best plan forward. > > Albert Astals Cid wrote: > The proper way of doing this is having metrics reporting that show how > quickly after pressing F1 you close khelpcenter, unfortunately the user > metric reporting got blocked on "this is spying our users", so now we don't > have any data that can back my claim that F1 as a shortcut is useless or > someone else's claim that it is vital. > > I will discard this and stop pursuing the idea, it's clear we're > stationary and people are scared of change or even getting the data to pursue > change. > > Matthew Dawson wrote: > To be clear, I'm not against this change, I'm just against having the > conversation about this change in *this* communication channel. Like I said, > if this is taken to something like VDG, and the consensus there is to remove > this shortcut, I'll happily take this (even if there are some objections). > > Please don't stop pursuing this! I agree the current behaviour is > suboptimal and something new should be found. My goal isn't to be stationary. > > Albert Astals Cid wrote: > The kde-usability mailing list is subscribed here. In my opinion that's > enough to get usability people to comment, your -2 means you think it is not. > > I do not have time to do more than what i have done, i have 29 okular > review requests pending and i should really get to review them this century, > so no, i'm not going to pursue this further. > > If you think the current behavior is suboptimal maybe you can be > convinced to do it ;)
I don't find RR are a great place for this type of conversation, especially something that may take a wider vision. If kde-usability comes to a consensus, that's good enough for me. Fair enough on your time constraints, I use okular all the time and appreciate your work in it :). I'll see what I can do about it, though I have the same time problems. - Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------- This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/128019/#review95848 ----------------------------------------------------------- On May 26, 2016, 6:04 p.m., Albert Astals Cid wrote: > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > This is an automatically generated e-mail. To reply, visit: > https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/128019/ > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > (Updated May 26, 2016, 6:04 p.m.) > > > Review request for KDE Frameworks and KDE Usability. > > > Repository: kconfig > > > Description > ------- > > F1 is too important and too easy to trigger for something like Help, that be > honest you don't need a shortcut for (since you don't invoke Help that often). > > > Diffs > ----- > > src/gui/kstandardshortcut.cpp 6be6309 > > Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/128019/diff/ > > > Testing > ------- > > > Thanks, > > Albert Astals Cid > >
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