Dale Wrote:
>------- Original Message ------- >From : Dale[mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com] >Sent : 11/23/2011 12:06:48 AM >To : kde-linux@kde.org >Cc : >Subject : RE: Re: [kde-linux] Non-functional KDE 4.6 in openSUSE 11.4 > >Duncan wrote: > FrankK posted on Tue, 22 Nov 2011 20:58:30 -0800 as excerpted: > >> Apparently some of the updating I did online in between the DVD install >> and the kde 4.6 pattern install changed some dependencies. Rather than >> risk breaking what I have now, I'll wait for the 12.1 DVD to arrive. > Being on a dialup modem... sucks! I have serious respect for anyone > still doing software updates, etc, on dialup, regardless of the OS > they're using, and yeah, I'd likely be doing a lot of waiting for DVDs, > etc, too, if I were in that situation. > > This is well OT now, but... I haven't any idea where you're located or > what your connectivity options are, but at least here (Phoenix, AZ, USA), > the lowest-level broadband connection available seems to be Cox's 1.5 Mbps > service, AFAIK $35/mo unbundled bottom-line price, after all taxes, etc. > If the cost of the dialup ISP is added (assuming it's not free), it's no > contest, the cable service is about the same cost but a FAR better always- > on net connection. > > An always-on net connection also gives you VoIP as an alternative to > phone service. Since with a net connection, the VoIP provider can be > located anywhere, competition is far better and thus so is the price vs. > service balance. With a ~$200 equipment investment, full bare-bones > phone service replacement including nationwide-as-local calling and a > phone system phone number for inbound calls, is $0, monthly, or more > services (caller ID, call-waiting, forwarding, 3-way, voice-mail, user- > controlled call-routing including to voicemail or to faked phone number > invalid) are available for $10-20/mo with a far smaller upfront > investment, tho one may need to pay a year at a time to get the lower end > of that cost range. > > Depending on your voice-phone usage patterns, VoIP may offer you either > way better service or way lower costs if not both, thus making the always- > on internet connection look even better. > > But unfortunately, such always-on connections aren't available > everywhere, and/or may costs hundreds of dollars a month. And some > nations, particularly those with state-based telco monopolies, ban VoIP > to force use of the phone monopoly. (Of course, some places offer 100Mbit > Fast-Ethernet comparable speeds for $20/mo, too, but obviously neither > you nor I have that sort of option. =:^( ) > > What I'm saying is... look into it if you DO have DSL or cable Internet > available in your area. A lot of people simply don't realize that for > what they're paying for the phone line and ISP, they could have an always- > on connection at far faster speeds, and/or be paying less for better VoIP > based phone service, as well. Unfortunately that's not everywhere, tho, > and if you're simply out of luck where you are... then as I said, wow, I > have a *LOT* of respect for those still having to use dialup. > I was in the same situation until a year or so ago. I was on one really slow dial-up that cost me more than DSL not even counting the phone itself. Dial-up was about $20.00 a month plus about $45.00 for the phone line. DSL is about $15.00 and no phone needed. Went to cell phones now actually. I hope you get a faster connection soon. I too remember a Open Office update taking two to three days to download or about the same for KDE. That was in the KDE 3.5 days too. KDE 4 is larger still. If you live in the USA, let us know. One of us may can download a CD or something and mail it to you. I live in Mississippi myself. Dale :-) :-) Dale, Duncan, Thanks for the co-miseration! Right now I'm in Northern Wisconsin where DSL only reaches the five wire-miles from the switch. Switches are too expensive for the rural population density here. Having written that, my address now requires some explanation. My home is about ten miles from the Pacific in northwest Oregon. Since that is my registered kde-linux address, I'm having to use my Oregon ISPs webmail to post on this list. You guys can probably picture what it's like to deal with two "keyholes" in series - the local dial-up line and a webmail ISP 2K miles away! Last spring DSL did come to my Oregon home, but I'm on the end of the line. All I get there is 256K bits/second, but that's a near infinity speed factor over dial-up. The snail-mail DVDs have been working well for me. Usually any updates I do from Wisconsin are "overnighters". I have two boxes here to update, so I make use of the "keep packages" option. My 12.1 DVD should be here in a few days. I'll report back on how the kde 4.7 display works out. Frank K ___________________________________________________ This message is from the kde-linux mailing list. Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-linux. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.
