On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Myriam Schweingruber <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Harald Sitter <[email protected]> > wrote: >> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Myriam Schweingruber <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Ciao Luigi, >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Luigi Toscano >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Valorie Zimmerman ha scritto: >>>>> Hi folks, >>>>> >>>>> We in Kubuntu are trying to organize our QA efforts, to make them >>>>> easier for testers to use, and make the results useful for the >>>>> developers. Of course most QA for us happens in KDE itself. We've >>>>> asked Sayak to think about creating a webapp that we could use to host >>>>> our stuff. We'd love to see KDE chime in, and make this webapp useful >>>>> to all of us. >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> why not reuse a real test case management system like TestLink? >>>> http://testlink.org/ >>>> >>>> It is used by OpenOffice.org: https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/Testlink >>>> I took a brief look at it some time ago and it seems quite complete, even >>>> if >>>> it could be complex for newcomers; on the other side it is a good choice >>>> for >>>> the long term. >>> >>> Sounds like a very good idea, and it is not overly complex, as the >>> tester doesn't have to configure much, and with clear instructions on >>> how to use it this shouldn't be a problem. Since it is Free Software, >>> it can also be adapted to our needs. >>> >>> So yes, why not go for TesLlink and eventually adapt it to our needs? >>> Would probably spare some work, and we don't have to reinvent the >>> wheel :) >> >> The last time I used TestLink, the administrative (i.e. test case >> management) side of things was nothing short of complicated madness, >> that was quite a while ago however. Not being simple on the >> administative reduces the amount of people who are willing to work >> with it, eventually again decreasing the usefulness (greetings from >> bugzilla and all the devs who never ever look at it :'<). > > Erm, sorry, but the bugzilla argument I simply don't buy, if software > developers think this is difficult to use, they should maybe start > working in some corporate environment and get an idea how much worse > stuff exists out there. While I can imagine that one would like to be > able to combine bugs with a task driven system, they seem to be > completely oblivious of the amount of administration such a system > generates, and there simply is nothing perfect I know of. For me > bugzilla is quite simple to use, and I am not a developer, so that > argument is just crap, sorry to be so blunt. > > When we were starting to talk about moving to git there were a lot of > voices expressing concerns about how complex it would be and I heard > from KDE core developers that they would never change, they were too > old for that, etc. With such an attitude we will never get a testing > system that will be used by anyone! > > People, just get real: there is no perfect testing system, and writing > one by a single person is totally unrealistic. I had a quick look at > TestLink today and it doesn't look as nearly as complicated as JIRA > (which has be repeatedly mentioned as being better than Bugzilla, I > still fail to see how we would ever get a single bug report from a > user in there...) would to a newcomer. Every time we try something new > there are voices against it, we want to make things better, and > TestLink is a start, let's try this and see if we can improve it > before reinventing the wheel
Sure, just wanted to note my experience with it. HS _______________________________________________ Kde-testing mailing list [email protected] https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-testing
