On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Britt Mathis <britt.mat...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On 03/21/2013 04:45 PM, Duncan wrote: > >> Britt Mathis posted on Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:29:20 -0400 as excerpted: >> >> This is my first post to a mailing list ever, so I apologize in advance >>> if this has already been resolved or I am in violation of post etiquette >>> in some way. >>> >> FWIW, your post was quite good, with one exception. Good: You included >> the kde version, a reasonable description of the problem, and what you'd >> done to narrow it down and/or try to fix it yourself (start plasma from >> the command line, etc). You'd be surprised at the number of people who >> include no version information at all, or if they do, it's for some >> distribution (not for kde) that others may or may not be at all familiar >> with. That's always frustrating as it's so simple to include, but takes >> another round of question and reply to get when it's not included, and >> there's often several rounds of that as it is. >> >> Single bad point: Many list regulars have been working with computers >> for quite some time, and are traditional enough to consider HTML messages >> bad form, at minimum. I do, but also realize that a lot of people don't >> even know they're posting in HTML in the first place, until someone >> requests they don't. (Sometimes people who don't even like HTML >> themselves end up posting in it themselves, if they're running a mailer >> that defaults to HTML and "forgets" their preferences, and I get thanked >> for pointing it out so they can fix it, so it's easy enough to do.) From >> this perspective, if it has to be dressed up in HTML to be worth reading, >> it's not worth reading at all, and the people who post in HTML can be >> broken down into four camps: The spammers, who often use HTML to hide >> some of their filter avoidance tricks, the malware folks (often a spammer >> subtype), who use it to obfuscate links and try to trick people, and/or >> to track readership without permission (web bugs), and/or to exploit a >> known security vuln in some HTML parsing mail client or other, the people >> who simply don't realize the problem or that they're doing it, and the >> rude folks who simply don't care. Fortunately, many people are in the >> third category and only need it pointed out and they stop. After all, >> irritating the folks who might have your answer isn't generally a good >> idea. >> >> (FWIW, your post had two portions, an HTML and a plain text portion. But >> had I been kill-filing all HTML messages as some do, I'd have never seen >> the message and thus would have never replied...) >> >> I am running KDE 4.10.1. Every time I customize the desktop and reboot, >>> I still get the splash animation, but I am booted into a completely >>> black screen. I am then able to use kRunner to open any application and >>> the applications function normally. As far as I can tell this is >>> specifically affecting plasma. >>> >> Yes. KDE is deliberately modularized enough so that barring either two >> different bugs or a single bug so bad it affects both, you'll always have >> either krunner or plasma available to launch other apps with, even if the >> other one has crashed, as plasma seems to be doing in your case. >> >> When I try starting plasma for the command line, I get a lengthy error >>> message (I can replicate this bug and post an exact message if you all >>> would like). The main error is an X error, BadPixMap invalid parameter - >>> 4. >>> >> Unfortunately, much of kde appears to be designed with the assumption >> that nobody but the developers runs anything from the command line or >> with STDOUT/STDERR redirected to a file in ordered to try to debug >> problems. As a result, when run from the command line or with STD* >> captured, kde apps routinely spit out a huge amount of alarming looking >> but non-fatal "noise" that's arguably of interest to the devs themselves, >> but is just that, noise, to a power user or admin trying to debug a >> problem, but who now can't see the real problem due to the volume of >> "normal" messages, now noise hiding the signal of worth that he's trying >> to find! >> >> I googled this and didn't really get anything recent. I have managed to >>> isolate this bug to when I resize my panel or when I add too many icons >>> to my panel. Everything else survived rebooting several times. >>> >>> I appreciate any help you guys can give me. Again, I apologize if this >>> has already been resolved. >>> >> Here's a few hints, anyway: >> >> 1) Important! Please backup your $KDEHOME/share/config/plasma-**desktop- >> appletsrc file. ($KDEHOME defaulting to ~/.kde or sometimes ~/.kde4, >> depending on distro.) If this file gets corrupted, you lose all the >> customizations you have and may need to start from the defaults, as while >> it is a text-based file, it's too complex to /easily/ edit by hand. At >> least having a backup will let you easily restore it if necessary. I've >> had to do that a few times here. >> >> 2) With the backup made and plasma not running, try deleting the above >> file and see if you can then successfully reconfigure plasma. If so, >> it's a problem in the existing file. >> >> 3) Try temporarily turning off desktop effects. Sometimes they are the >> problem, but can be reenabled after the desired adjustment has been made. >> >> Gotta head to work now. Later! >> > Thank you so much for your reply, Duncan. I was unaware that I was using > html and not plain text, hopefully I have fixed the issue now. > > As far as the bug is concerned, I had already renamed that file and > started the desktop back up, which worked. I have been experimenting with > customizations and I have narrowed the bug down to the icons being placed > on the panel. I know I had some bash scripts that ran wine games on there, > maybe that could have caused the issue. I will test this more thoroughly > and get back to you all, if this is indeed a kde issue and not an issue > with one of the packages. > > Thanks again for your help, > Britt > Can you please check the file ".xsession-errors" in your home directory? Also are desktop effects enabled?
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