Having  used both gnome and early kde on suse rather than opensuse I can't say 
either are remotely like windows other than a window is a window. I switched 
from windows to linux with kde when it was on 2 point something. I did try 
gnome and immediately went back to kde. Having read gnomes latest aims it 
wouldn't interest me at all.

KDE did have all of those Kthis and that apps available on version 3. About 
because it was easy to produce them. Version 4 seemed to loose it's way in that 
respect. I have heard 5 is intended to be a sort of VM - if so a return to what 
it was maybe. About time too. I suspect 5 may have happened because 4 had too 
many blind avenues built in. Maybe 6 wont happen so quickly. Most of the 
changes seem pretty sensible to me. Taskbar icons disappearing when used is a 
right pain if some one wants to open 2 of what ever was launched. Dolphin 
search is currently crippled but I still use kmail 3 search and the linux level 
index. Cataloguing everything doesn't really fit in with my use of a machine.

OpenSuse factory as far as I know is Gnome. Unbuntu is Gnome. The probable 
reason for both going that way was what happened when kde went to 4. It wasn't 
too much of a problem on OpenSuse really once people realised that the dreaded 
search and indexing needed severely limiting in it's scope. Kmail4 wasn't a 
problem as KDEPIM3 was still available - for opensuse users. In fact I only 
stopped using it a month ago. Initially KDE4 was introduced in a release as few 
samples ;-) None of them worked but it didn't matter as 3 was still there. 
Factory needed to be solid so they went for gnome on that.

Currently I believe gnome has it's search built in so that several of it's 
standard apps need it to run. Sounds familiar? I've killed it all on 5 without 
any problems. I still seem to be able to search bookmarks from the start button 
menu - it's useless too so I need to find out how that is happening.

Opensuse seem to be pretty good at putting out decent releases of new KDE's. 
They seem to do that by making the earlier version disappear over a period of 
time. If people want that to happen more quickly they offer tumbleweed and will 
probably have some stability problems. I've tried a number of other distro's 
and have always gone back. For some one who just wants to mostly run a machine 
and use it I'm not convinced it can be beat really. Most things that need doing 
can be done from the desktop. Bug reports sometime get actions and the main 
releases are generally pretty stable.

John
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On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 12:45:05 -0500
Alec Bloss <hopefullife...@gmail.com> wrote:

> To be honest, as long as I can remember (pre Novell even) SuSE used KDE as
> the default desktop. At the time I suspect that KDE was viewed as a more
> Windowsishy experience than GNOME and that may, or may not, have had some
> influence.
> 
> On Apr 14, 2017 12:42 PM, "Farhad Mohammadi Majd" <farhadbenya...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hello, please participate in below thread:
> >
> > http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2017-04/msg00147.html
> >  

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