Hi Jean-Michel,

I've tried -vsync 0 with vanilla ffmpeg. No, it's not the same. It dumps an error:

Error, Invalid timestamp=15, last=17

I suppose the camcorder misses some frames when encoding starts, which requires ffmpeg to introduce some duplicates. It seems like the frames come in "interesting" order in the AVCHD file and somehow ffmpeg as well as mlt are not able to reorder them correctly (e.g., because they do not keep enough previous frames in the buffer?).

@Dan: I looked at the source in producer_avformat.c in MLT. I don't believe this is the problem. It's more like ffmpeg's libavformat is not producing correct timestamps and therefore I will look there (dts/pts computation in utils.c/av_read_frame*, I suppose). This would also explain why ffmpeg itself is producing jerky videos (without my patch). Correcting it will most probably also correct kdenlive support for this camcorder.

As I said, on weekend I plan to look at it in some more detail.

Regards,

Ivan


Jean-Michel Pouré wrote:
On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 21:06 +0100, Ivan Schreter wrote:
Regarding the ffmpeg patch, as I wrote, this is NO SOLUTION. It's just
a workaround for this specific camcorder AVCHD format. It might cause unpredictable results on other source material. But I didn't post it anywhere else yet and don't have much time right now to do it. If you wish, feel free to discuss it with ffmpeg developers and put me on the CC :-)

BTW, do you know by chance where is the video timing (or computation
of timestamps for timestamp-less frames) handled in kdenlive? Maybe I can look at it during the weekend and eventually make a workaround directly in kdenlive.

Dear Ivan,

I answer you on Kdenlive mailing list. This is about your workaround:
http://www.kdenlive.org/video-editor/panasonic-hdc-sd9

I proposed the solution on FFmpeg mailing list and someone answered me
that this was the same as -vsync 0 FFmpeg option. I don't understand
what video sync to zero means. But then how is the video synced? Maybe
you can explain us ...

Kind regards,
Jean-Michel

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