2010/6/13 Andrew Manson <g.real....@gmail.com>: > Hi Simon, > Thanks for the well wishes and hopefully being Irish might bring me enough > luck to get this working ;) I'm currently working on the project now > actually, one of the things that I didn't mention in my original email is > that I already professionally recorded Ogg Camp in Liverpool this year > (oggcamp.org) An Have at least 9 talks, 18 tapes, that I am in the process > of editing. I've already identified 2 crashes and added bug reports to the > MTL library tracker so one could argue that it's already paying off! > I completely agree with the point of having to improve MLT. I want to > develop a new MTL feature myself but I just haven't quite figured out the > application stack and what needs to go where quite yet, I will be emailing > this list with my feature requests/ideas/plans sometime soon (when I get a > second to do it). > I presume there will be some MLT hackers on this list too or should I seek > out the MLT mailing list and start the discussion there too? what do you > think?
I am the primary MLT developer. Occasionally, Kdenlive developers JBM and Marco Gittler help, not to mention the occasional outside contribution. FYI, I am not short on ideas or projects, but if you plan to contribute and need some guidance, then I will try to help. As long as what needs discussion is related to Kdenlive, it probably makes sense to use this mailing list. > Cheers, > Chris > > On 13 June 2010 13:08, Simon A. Eugster <simon...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Andrew, >> >> Sounds interesting. This kind of development (start working on a project >> and add missing features) is my favourite one :) >> >> Depending on what you'll need it actually won't be kdenlive only to >> improve >> but also MLT. >> >> Looking forward to your project, and good luck! >> Simon >> >> On 11.06.2010 09:32, Andrew Manson wrote: >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > I was chatting on the IRC channel Wednesday night with Alberto and got a >> > chance to a discuss proposal I have for the Kdenlive team with him. All >> > and all Alberto seemed like he liked the idea but urged me to bring the >> > discussion up on the mailing list, so that's why I'm here! >> > >> > I would call myself a KDE developer (even though I have not been >> > developing for a while now) and have worked quite extensively on the >> > Marble Desktop Globe project. Lately I have been working on a new >> > project, apart from development, that will need some help/collaboration >> > from the Kdenlive team and hopefully will end up with a mutually >> > beneficial relationship between Kdenlive and TalkOSS. >> > >> > The "big idea" is actually quite simple but has not yet been done quite >> > right by anyone else. Let me explain.... >> > >> > We have many great Open Source Conferences around the world that are >> > informative, useful to the community and sometimes quite entertaining. A >> > lot of effort has been put into the organisation of the kind of events >> > and at some of them (sometimes only ones with bigger budgets) there has >> > been some effort put into recording the conferences. I have been to two >> > of the larger ones that have had these higher budget recordings but >> > there has been something lacking from these recordings and that has >> > resulted in some pretty poor quality videos being released sometimes up >> > to 4 months later than the conference. An example of such a video is >> > currently up on my website www.talkoss.com <http://www.talkoss.com>. >> > >> > My vision is to have professional people record these conferences, >> > because that professional edge will be noticed instantaneously in the >> > quality of the videos. Also I would like to have one place on the >> > Internet where everyone can come together and watch these videos without >> > having to go to disparate corners of the Internet to piece together an >> > experience of a conference. There needs to be no barrier to entry in >> > either the quality or the availability of the videos and I hope to be >> > the man to give that to the world, with a bit of help. >> > >> > This is where you guys come in. If I am planning to provide the world >> > with professional quality videos I need a professional quality editing >> > suite to edit them. I could invest in a professional suite like Adobe >> > Final Cut pro but this is a no-go for 2 reasons. Firstly I will be >> > starting this venture on a donations only basis to hopefully just break >> > even and spending all of the generous donations on licencing fees >> > instead of putting it to good work would seem criminal. Secondly, and >> > this is much more important in my opinion, I don't believe that it is >> > inherently *right* to be in the business of promoting open source and >> > not be using open source tools for the entire process. This probably >> > shows up my feelings about open source quite strongly but I a am a >> > fanatic an I will always strive for what I believe in, and never >> > compromise on the important things. >> > >> > Having made the decision to use open source tools I will inevitably be >> > compromising on the stability and feature set of the editing suite for >> > what I believe in, but I only see this as a short term problem. One of >> > the things that I mentioned to Alberto on Wednesday was that I really >> > like the concept of the Blender Foundation's "Project Peach" which most >> > of you will know as Big Buck Bunny. They set out to produce a >> > professional quality short animated film with blender and at any >> > stumbling block where they needed a particular feature or the stability >> > of the core was not up to scratch they had a team of developers to >> > improve the blender software so that they could get the job done. This >> > was a very successful project and ended up in some really exciting >> > improvements being made to Blender and I don't see any reason why we >> > cannot recreate the same effect. The "big project" this time will be >> > TalkOSS. >> > >> > This is enough for my introductory email. I will need to start some >> > separate discussions on what I feel we need to do, organisationally, to >> > get this idea off the ground but those should be discussion items and >> > should be separate from this email. And also, just to be clear, I'm not >> > just coming around here asking for you guys to develop things for me so >> > that I can get TalkOSS off the ground. I am instead offering my services >> > as a developer and a heavy user/tester but my focus will be more so >> > using the tool instead of developing new and exciting features that I >> > won't need, in very much the same way as the Big Buck Bunny crew did. >> > >> > I'm sorry for the really long email but this is actually my first public >> > announcement of the TalkOSS project and I wanted it to be complete. >> > Please let me know what you all think of the idea and if you think we >> > could work together on this one. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Chris Manson (a.k.a Andrew, Chris is my middle name ;) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate >> > GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the >> > lucky parental unit. 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