On Friday, April 29, 2011 06:22:06 PM Dan Dennedy did opine: > On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 1:55 PM, gene heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> wrote: > > Greetings; > > > > Your recent freshmeat announcement of 8.0 triggered my curiosity > > again, so I plugged in my camera, which did not seem to be properly > > discovered by the kernel, a 2.6.38.4-pae kernel built by my distro, > > pclos. �From the msgs > > > log: > OK, I will bite. I was the Kino developer, still the dvgrab > maintainer, and now your Mlt lead developer - the engine for Kdenlive. > > > Apr 27 13:44:46 coyote klogd: firewire_core: skipped bus generations, > > destroying all nodes > > Apr 27 13:44:46 coyote klogd: firewire_core: rediscovered device fw0 > > Apr 27 13:44:46 coyote klogd: firewire_core: phy config: card 0, new > > root=ffc1, gap_count=5 > > Apr 27 13:44:46 coyote klogd: firewire_core: skipped bus generations, > > destroying all nodes > > Apr 27 13:44:47 coyote klogd: firewire_core: rediscovered device fw0 > > Apr 27 13:44:47 coyote klogd: firewire_core: created device fw1: GUID > > 08004601044684e4, S100 > > Apr 27 13:44:49 coyote klogd: firewire_core: giving up on config rom > > for node id ffc0 > > > > Which is repeated every time the cable is plugged into the camera. �It > > may switch to /dev/fw1 at times too. > > I do not know new firewire subsystem as much as old linux1394, but I > am not convinced "giving up on config rom" is something to be > concerned about, and it is normal for messages to appear and device > nodes to change when plugging devices. > > > kdenlive (mine is version 7.8) supposedly gained camera controls back > > in 2006 according to the ChangeLog on your web pages, but despite > > have them turned on, the buttons don't work, and despite trying both > > of the non- screenshot choices available in the menu's, no video from > > the camera can be found. > > Kdenlive simply runs dvgrab piped to ffplay as a child and embeds the > ffplay window. dvgrab has a stdin slave mode for control (see -i > interactive switch). However, this apporach has degraded in stability > over the past couple of years as ffplay changed its method of a/v sync > and became loss tolerant of stream discontinuity that appears when > using transport controls. I am planning to add Firewire capture to Mlt > this summer to address this. > > > Shut kdenlive down and fire up kino-1.3.4, and it all Just Works(TM). > > Flawlessly... > > Strange since dvgrab's code is almost exactly the same as Kino's. > However, unlike Kino, dvgrab and Kdenlive also supports HDV. In > Kdenlive Settings, see if Firewire capture is set to HDV or DV. Like I > said, it is known that Firewire capture is no longer working well > within Kdenlive, so you might just stick with Kino for capture if that > works for you. > > > Then I go back and run kdenlive, and go see if it can load and edit > > any of the several weddings and other movies I have made with kino > > over the years, and in only one case can it even see the filenames, > > but it cannot open them, and ANAICT doesn't even make the attempt. > > Say what? Maybe you have a broken build. Please clarify what files you > are trying to open - DV or Kino XML project files. Both are supported, > but .kino files probably do not show up in the file dialog until you > clear the filter field at the bottom (make it empty and press Enter). > Do DV files (.dv or .avi) load? Those should load reliably. Another > way to load files is to drag and drop them from a file manager into > the Kdenlive Project Tree panel. > Even with the filter cleaned, it will not show me the files that are there in the directory. It will show dirnames, but no files.
> > The end result is that I have yet to see kdenlive actually play a > > video of any kind. �The pclos installed version is 7.8, and the > > running kernel is 2.6.38.4-pae. 32 bit. > > That is a clue that there is something fundamentally wrong with your > build. I am not building it, this is the version 0.7.8 from the pclos 2010 + pass repo's. > You think all these people using Kdenlive as evidenced by the > forum traffic and YouTube postings are bluffing? > Not at all Dan. And I assume that others have been able to make it work if their distro supports libraw1394-2.00 or newer. pclos in this regard is a bit behind the time at version 1.3.0 & everything else is built against that. The current dvgrab-3.2 or 3.5 as I just built it, is helplessly looking for /dev/raw1394, and of course isn't finding it. kino-1.3.4 appears to be self-contained and that works. > > Now, its been 3 or 4 years since I made the last dvd's of a wedding, > > so I need the recipe for importing the best, cleanest image from a > > 720x480 NTSC camera, and then from my edit final, make that into a > > dvd the parents and kids can both play. �They've been waiting > > patiently since last November 2010, I assume because I downloaded a > > copy to their vhs machine before I came home. �But I know I can make > > a dvd that is many times sharper and cleaner than that vhs can do > > even in the test laboratory. > > > > Was that ever committed to a kino "do this, in this order" recipe that > > makes us all look like we know what we are doing? �URL please if it > > exists. > > http://www.kinodv.org/help/dvdauthor Good, I'll take a look after dinner maybe. I just promised the missus we'd go out for dinner. I hope she feels like it anyway, COPD is slowly taking her away. > As long as you get its dvdauthor working (which may have broken by now > due to lack of maintenance), it really is very simple. If it is broken > you can probably just run it from command line to see any messages and > fix it by editing the script in /usr/share/kino/scripts/dvdauthor/. Some of those scripts were for qdvdauthor, so I also installed that and the rest of its dependencies. I'll be back with some sort of a report, I need to get this done. (hopefully while they are still married) ;-) -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) <http://tinyurl.com/ddg5bz> <http://www.cantrip.org/gatto.html> I believe a little incompatibility is the spice of life, particularly if he has income and she is pattable. -- Ogden Nash ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ WhatsUp Gold - Download Free Network Management Software The most intuitive, comprehensive, and cost-effective network management toolset available today. Delivers lowest initial acquisition cost and overall TCO of any competing solution. http://p.sf.net/sfu/whatsupgold-sd _______________________________________________ Kdenlive-devel mailing list Kdenlive-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/kdenlive-devel
