Hi all I think it is a great idea raise funds on Kickstarter and I'll do my best to spread the campaign in Brazil.
Best regards, wille 2012/1/8 Till Theato <root at ttill.de> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/07/2012 04:53 AM, Ernie Zahn wrote: > > Heyhey. Im still here. Its been a really hectic couple of months. > > > > I think a 3 min expose on the mission, progress and prospects of > > kdenlive would be perfect. Setting up interviews with developers > > and users etc. > > Yep, sounds great. > Maybe we could also show a quick sequence of some articles on Kdenlive? > > When speaking of users we could maybe directly ask some people who are > active on kdenlive.org for a long time, or who published > articles/videos on or great videos done with Kdenlive? > > > > > We can also feature clips from films that show off kdenlives best > > features. > > Hm, I guess we'll have to drop that one. The effects we have are not > sophisticated enough to show them off and our main business, > editing/cutting, should not be noticeable in the final result at all > :). Some pans over the GUI during the interviews instead? > But maybe I'm just to negative again ;) > > > > > Im based out of the NYC area so if theres anyone around here > > interested in being interviewed, thatd be great. > > At least none of the developers. But since we probably all have > cameras this could probably also be done in a distributed manner. > > With most of the developers living in Europe another problem arises: > Kickstarter (if we want to use it) requires a US bank account... > > > > On Jan 6, 2012 3:55 PM, "Till Theato" <root at ttill.de> wrote: > > > > @Ernie: Are you still around here? What do you think of what your > > idea developed into? > > > > > > On 12/23/2011 02:47 PM, Till Theato wrote: > >>>> On 11/21/2011 03:59 PM, Simon A. Eugster wrote: > >>>>> On 11/20/2011 09:57 PM, Till Theato wrote: On 10/13/2011 > >>>>> 09:11 PM, Dan Dennedy wrote: > >>>>>>>> > > > http://www.readwriteweb.com/cloud/2011/10/the-state-of-diaspora-and-fund.php > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>> > >>>>>>>> > > > > > After this and Novacut, I feel that most open source projects run > >>>>>>>> through Kickstarter end up receiving a lot of > >>>>>>>> resentment. The community funding model does not > >>>>>>>> match the user expectations. > >>>> > >>>>>> Why we need to refactor Kdenlive before continuing to > >>>>>> work on its features: > >>>> > >>>>> Additionally: When I first had the idea of working full > >>>>> time on Kdenlive I thought about some neat new features > >>>>> (definitely no special effects though ;)). Such a defined > >>>>> goal would probably make a fund raising more attractive. > >>>>> However since I'll have very little time till April and > >>>>> since nobody did have much time in the past few months this > >>>>> probably won't work out. I am not willing to add any big > >>>>> features to the existing code. While it has served Kdenlive > >>>>> great in the past it's structures can't hold all of > >>>>> Kdenlive's features anymore. That's what we concluded in > >>>>> Randa. > >>>> > >>>>>> See? ;) That's how I'd sell it. > >>>> > >>>> If you think that'll convince potential donators... > >>>> > >>>>>> And maybe add a little more, like: Which features > >>>>>> would/could you add afterwards, when refactoring is done? > >>>>>> Is stability increased as well? > >>>> > >>>> Well, I personally probably won't be available much > >>>> afterwards and therefore won't be able to add any new > >>>> features. But of course we can mention the plans you others > >>>> have. > >>>> > >>>>>> What other benefits are there for the users? Does Granjow > >>>>>> have git access as well now? (Yes, he does! :D) (Now that > >>>>>> I read it again, maybe the last point is not so important > >>>>>> to mention) > >>>> > >>>>>> Regarding the refactoring process itself. Do you think > >>>>>> it would make sense if * we other devs would again look > >>>>>> at the code and check what could be improved in the code > >>>>>> * someone external did a code review (if we find > >>>>>> volunteers) before you start working? > >>>> > >>>> Both ideas sound good. I also plan to publish some ideas on > >>>> the general approach to refactoring Kdenlive. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>> Simon > >>>> > >>>>> So I would have to work on refactoring. But how do you > >>>>> sell refactoring? > >>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Simon A. Eugster > >>>>>>>> <simon.eu at gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> On 19.09.2011 19:32, Till Theato wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On 09/17/2011 11:10 PM, Ernie Zahn wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Hey Simon Sounds great! I'll draft a script > >>>>>>>>>>> then? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Wait, wait, wait ... (just a little bit ;)) but > >>>>>>>>>> thanks for the will to take care of this! > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> There is no 100% certainty that I'll be able to > >>>>>>>>>> spend this time on Kdenlive, so we need an > >>>>>>>>>> alternative just in case. I'd also like to hear > >>>>>>>>>> opinions from the others about how money donated > >>>>>>>>>> to Kdenlive should be used. Maybe someone else > >>>>>>>>>> would also be able to spend some time on > >>>>>>>>>> Kdenlive? Maybe Hardware? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> @Till, I think the fact that Novacut just did > >>>>>>>>>>> one is a good reason to do one now. Kdenlive is > >>>>>>>>>>> public and is waaay past proof of concept. > >>>>>>>>>>> Users can test drive it for themselves. We > >>>>>>>>>>> could advertise at as funding for version 1.0. > >>>>>>>>>>> I can speak to that personally since I haven't > >>>>>>>>>>> been developing but it's a thought. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> We then have to make sure we don't promise to > >>>>>>>>>> much, so we don't frustrate anyone. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hehe. Sometimes I wonder if we at kdenlive are too > >>>>>>>>> honest. Others promise a better world and want > >>>>>>>>> money before they even know how to do it. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I saw some smaller projects on kickstarter as well. > >>>>>>>>> What about putting just your 2 months on > >>>>>>>>> kickstarter as soon as you know you can spend your > >>>>>>>>> time on > >>>> > >>>>> I will be able to work on it for 8-10 weeks somewhere > >>>>> between April (including) and July (including). > >>>> > >>>>>>>>> doing it? I'm not sure if a bigger campaign would > >>>>>>>>> help us too much at the moment, since our main > >>>>>>>>> limit is not money but time. And more programmers > >>>>>>>>> ;) > >>>> > >>>>> Even at this scale it will definitely require quite some > >>>>> work. > >>>>>> > >>>> > >> > >> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk8KBL0ACgkQzwEyz7QP6nTisQCgx0VrV6kc+bGnXUz9XFhU8ryh > qKEAoMUM8MiVQs9589YS+FU+IIq8RvDu > =Sp2y > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ridiculously easy VDI. With Citrix VDI-in-a-Box, you don't need a complex > infrastructure or vast IT resources to deliver seamless, secure access to > virtual desktops. With this all-in-one solution, easily deploy virtual > desktops for less than the cost of PCs and save 60% on VDI infrastructure > costs. 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