It would also be neat if such a tool also had an additional option to add clip motion effects automatically, e.g. Slow zoom in or out, pan left/right, etc. So in addition to the clip transitions you also get a nice smooth motion effect applied to the clip keyframed start to end which can later be tweaked by the user in kdenlive.
I believe canopus (now grassvalley) used to have an app to do this (easy custom slideshow creation with motion fx) but I don't recall what it was called. I don't see it on their website anymore. Not sure if the product is still around and sold to someone else or if it bit the dust. -jtm On 8/24/10, Dan Dennedy <dan at dennedy.org> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 6:09 AM, John T. Mertz <thatonefilmguy at gmail.com> > wrote: >> Hope you don't mind me chiming in. >> >> I agree with albert, it is better to automate the slideshow creation >> but then once created the user must have the ability to change >> transitions and clip durations as they see fit. For example, the >> slideshow might use a transition I do not want or in a place I do not >> want. Likewise, I sometimes may want to change the duration of >> specific images inside the slideshow. > > I agree, but it will take some work for someone to code it up. > Currently, it using a MLT shortcut that does not allow it to be > exposed as something editable. So, even though possible and actually > quite easy, it is still a fair amount of work that you should not > expect it for the next release. > > This is certainly something one can make as a separate tool initially. > It would simply generate an XML file that you can open as a project in > kdenlive. It would be a good exercise for using MLT APIs, MLT XML > authoring, perhaps using some script binding to MLT and KDE or a > chance to play with Qt Quick and QML. The tool would use MLT API > primarily just for previewing the results. Then, after saving it could > have an option to open it with Kdenlive. I am just trying to give > anyone interested in coding but intimidated by an existing large code > base or C++ an idea for a fun little project. Now I wonder if this > could somehow be an add-on to digikam... now that would be nice! > >> Regarding the original topic (image sequence import), I think it is >> better to just have a checkbox deselected by default. It would be an >> annoyance to have a dialogue window pop up every time I import a >> folder with numbered images (as is generated by all digital cameras) >> to ask if it is an image sequence - a feature which is likely >> applicable to less than 1% of average users, and even the small subset >> of users who do use it probably do not use it all the time. > > This change in default state was already made :-) > >> -JTM >> >> >> On 8/23/10, Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud at free.fr> wrote: >>> Le 23/08/2010 20:12, Dan Dennedy a ?crit : >>>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Albert ARIBAUD<albert.aribaud at free.fr> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Le 22/08/2010 21:24, Dan Dennedy a ?crit : >>>>>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Alberto Villa<avilla at freebsd.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Albert >>>>>>> ARIBAUD<albert.aribaud at free.fr> >>>>>>> ? ?wrote: >>>>>>>> BTW: my wife's almost only complaint about kdenlive (1) is not >>>>>>>> having >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> 'one-click' or 'one-dialogue' way to make a slideshow from a bunch >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> stills with random transitions. Does it exist and I missed it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> no, it doesn't exist. it can be easily implemented as a plugin... >>>>>>> i'll >>>>>>> see if i can make it before the feature freeze >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, it does; it is a Slideshow clip. Currently, it does not randomize >>>>>> transitions, but you can't please everyone all of the time. Please do >>>>>> not make redundant features. Also, see my recent improvements in MLT >>>>>> that will allow us to improve it: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/news/?group_id=96039&id=290791 >>>>>> >>>>>> It should not be too difficult for me to add a special 'random' value >>>>>> to the component responsible for transitions. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Dan for pointing this out. This is great for both demonstrating >>>>> MTL's capabilities and for doing no-frills slideshows, however not >>>>> exactly what is required here, at least by my wife and, I suspect, by >>>>> many other Kdenlive users, for two reasons at least, one which is >>>>> trivial in the sense that it could be fixed easily, and one that is >>>>> not. >>>>> >>>>> The trivial point is that the source clips may come reside in multiple >>>>> folders, and conversively not all the files in one folders are expected >>>>> to end up in the slideshows. >>>>> >>>>> The less trivial point is that the user may want to let Kdenlive >>>>> provide >>>>> transitions at random, *then* be able to select any transition and >>>>> modify it to better suit their taste or remove it altogether; or add a >>>>> specific effect to a specific slide; or change a slide's duration for >>>>> some reason; or basically do whatever they want to the generated >>>>> slideshow. >>>>> >>>>> Thus what I am looking for is not a "slideshow clip" that would hide >>>>> the >>>>> slideshow to the kdenlive operator, but a "slideshow generator" that >>>>> would automate the creation of a slideshow on a track, e.g. take all >>>>> currently selected clips put them on a track, adding a randomly chosen >>>>> transition. >>>>> >>>>> This, I believe, is not the same feature as the slideshow clip, as it >>>>> does not cover the same need and does not provide the same >>>>> functionality. >>>> >>>> Like I said "you can't please everyone all of the time." What you want >>>> is more-or-less essentially already possible - just with more work. >>>> You have entered the grey zone between automatic and manual. For >>>> example, you can easily add multiple images to the Project tree (aka >>>> clip bin) and drag multiple clips to the timeline - automatic >>>> functions one could argue. What you do not have today is a function to >>>> automatically add random transitions between them - that is currently >>>> manual. ?I could ask "Make up your mind; do you want to be lazy or >>>> not?!" ;-) >>> >>> Acutally, I want a lazy setup *then* be able to make up my mind. :) >>> >>>> I think we would need to brainstorm some more about how to some or all >>>> of: >>>> 1) make transitions easier by overlapping and not requiring tracks >>> >>> That would be a plus, obviously. >>> >>>> 2) how to apply transitions in bulk - does that happen when dragging >>>> multiple clips to the timeline? Is that a function applied to multiple >>>> selected clips on the timeline? Is that a function applied to an >>>> entire track? >>> >>> If I must pick one, I'd say, although I'd personally prefer "happens >>> when dragging multiple clips to the timeline", the most sensible choice >>> would be ?"applied to multiple selected clips on the timeline". >>> >>>> 3) how to apply filters in bulk (e.g. center crop) (Does the existing >>>> Paste Effects work with multi-selection?) >>> >>> Search me on this one. :) >>> >>>> In the meantime, are you aware of the tool named imagination? >>>> http://imagination.sf.net/ >>> >>> Non, I didn't. But it won't fit the bill for my wife's uses: she does >>> not make slideshow DVDs, she makes DVDs with menus and submenus where >>> only *some* videos are slideshows. Granted, imagination seems to be able >>> to export to some formats, but that would be yet a third tools besides >>> kdenlive and dvdstyler. >>> >>> Amicalement, >>> -- >>> Albert. >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Sell apps to millions through the Intel(R) Atom(Tm) Developer Program >>> Be part of this innovative community and reach millions of netbook users >>> worldwide. Take advantage of special opportunities to increase revenue >>> and >>> speed time-to-market. 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