My $0.02 contribution to the discussion:
Which platform rather depends on intended use. If it's going to be an
active site with lots of different functions needing multiple permission
levels and a complex database, then probably better to use Drupal. If
it's fairly simple with a bunch of documents, then anything will do :)
On 26/01/16 09:36, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
If you decide to move to WordPress I can help out a bit too, I have
plenty experience maintaining ownCloud.org :-)
replying on phone. blame faulty text completion/correction for any
rudeness!
On Jan 25, 2016 11:02 PM, "farid abdelnour" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
hi guys,
i am one of the people interested in helping out with the website.
i guess the first step would be to choose if we are gonna stick to
the current platform (drupal) and update it since there might be
some security flaws or switch to a different one (wordpress?). our
lead designer here at the studio can take care of all the design
of the website and if we choose wordpress i can apply it (i am not
familiar with drupal). eventually we will do a research and
develop a design best suited for everyone's demands and needs. i
did a quick look around at other video, audio and graphics
programs to start getting an idea about what is out there:
proprietary:
http://www.lwks.com/
http://www.avid.com/US/products/Media-Composer
http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/vegaspro
https://www.apple.com/final-cut-pro/
https://www.adobe.com/products/premiere.html
free:
http://natron.fr/
http://ardour.org/
https://www.blender.org/
https://inkscape.org/en/
http://www.gimp.org/
parallel to this we can start thinking about writing/organizing
the content and structure. (which is the most important thing.)
like ttguy said, i agree that content is the most important but it
should be well presented to the visitors. we can point to the
forum, wiki and bug tracker from the website and users eventually
will use the other services if necessary.
if you'd like to continue this conversation here it is fine by me,
otherwise we can switch to the forum.
cheers
2016-01-21 19:50 GMT-02:00 Roger Morton <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>:
I have been involved in doing some maintenance of the content
on both
the kdenlive.org <http://kdenlive.org> web site and on the
userbase.kde wiki.
Historically the kdenlive.org <http://kdenlive.org> site was
where everything happened. It
was the manual, the forum, the place to make anouncements and to
advertise how to get Kdenlive.
Then for various reasons - as have already been mentioned - we
moved a
lot of this functionality to kde infra structure and closed the
kdenlive.org <http://kdenlive.org> web site to new user
registration. Now if we are thinking
of putting more content back on the kdenlive.org
<http://kdenlive.org> website we need to
consider the future maintenance burden.
The way to limit maintenance burden is to have a large number of
contributors to the maintenance task. We can get this on the
userbase.kde wiki since new user registrations are open. We
can't get
this so easily on kdenlive.org <http://kdenlive.org> because
new automatic registrations are
closed. We could try opening up kdenlive.org
<http://kdenlive.org> again to new user
registrations but I have to tell you that last time we had
this open
we were getting 5 or more fake spammer account registrations
per day.
I believe that the security on the registrations system had been
exploited somehow because I would see authorised users that
had never
been sent a confirmation email. This the reason we turned off
registration completely. Maybe this exploit has been fixed. I
dunno.
But this just something to consider in all this.
While I agree that the attractiveness of the site is important I
believe the accuracy of the content on the site is more important.
And I don't think we should duplicate information.
We have
https://userbase.kde.org/Special:MyLanguage/Kdenlive/Manual/Installation
to speak to installation
and we have https://userbase.kde.org/Kdenlive/Manual/Tutorials
for tutorials
So I am thinking more on the lines that Vincent mentioned. The
kdenlive.org <http://kdenlive.org> site can have some nice
looking promotional material that
is fairly generic in nature and not requiring too much
maintanance. It
should link to the more dynamic information at the
userbase.kde manual
pages.
>(3) Direct the viewer easily to a web page or location where
they can get it... or at least show how they can get it.
This is of course one of our biggest issues and has been for ages.
There is no way to have simple instructions on how to get it
because
everyone must rely on the package managers of their various linux
distros. But if we had more contributors to the doco then we
might
have users from all different distros updating the doco to
tell people
how to install it on their flavor of linux.
While we there is a mood about helping out with doco I would
make a
plea to people to help out on the userbase.kde manual. I did a
lot of
work on it a few years ago and got it to a point where it was
pretty
comprehensive. I had pages covering every menu item (not every
effect
or transition had a page - but a skeleton link to create a
page was
there). But now - with the major overall that kdenlive has
undergone
- it is out of date in many places. So if people have
"documentation
fever" they could help out on the userbase.org
<http://userbase.org> wiki. - register a kde
identity account here
https://identity.kde.org/?r=registration/index/
I summary my plea to people is to not focus too much on the
sexiness
of the websites but to focus on getting the content right. If
you see
something wrong just fix it !
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