</Begin RedFace>If I had to put the begin/end redface tags for every booboo I made, you wouldn't see the useful parts of my messages. So don't worry. My aim was not to single you out. I am just as guilty myself, and probably every other committer as well to some degree. But, as our contributor list grows, the peer-to-peer communication gets less and less a viable means of communication, so it's just better to get some guidelines up and known to all. So apologies if this stung...
I had discussed my recent addition to the PersistentFactories offline, but I should have posted online about it to give everyone fair warning. I apologize for that. And thanks to Mike N. for enhancing the Hibernate service to "clean-up "after I checked in.
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I fully sympathize. Actually, if you have the "default" deployment, the rest of the modules are fairly small in comparison. keel-tools is about to go away, since we will no longer bundle Cocoon. But, on the flip side, you'll have to download Cocoon itself, which is a behemoth (useful, but large). I'd say the next time you are able to get to a high-BW connection, download the latest Struts/JBoss/Cocoon, Tomcat etc with Keel....the rest shouldn't be an issue even on modems (admittedly, I'm not having to use modems, so what do I know). But, if you don't have the other modules, you will not know if you have broken something with changes. I love Eclipse for this, it's hard to miss those red "X"s.As for downloading all modules, I am probably not the only one who is running on a Dial-up generally, and as a result, this is not necessarily practical for me. A download and completeinstall of the Default modules alone is 2.5 hours, provided my internet connection stays connected that long, and SF does not drop me. I have no idea how long a download of ALL the modules would take me. The best suggestion I can think of is to second Shash on having a public discussion on core/server checkins before committing. +1 for public discussions.
:-) I wasn't intending this to be punitive! That reminds me of the tone of the old Apache JServ list...don't want to go there :-). I think all we need to do is formulate our guidelines and make those be known.From the tone of your email, somebody has been deleting methods off of core interfaces without warning??? I will act as look-out for any lynching party that wants to kick off. +1 for marking methods as deprecated rather deleting them (I guess make sure deprecation is turned on for compiles).
Shash
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