Benni via [email protected] writes:

>gemacht, aber das klingt für mich irgendwie trivial. Klar machen sie das 
>wenn sie die Möglichkeit dazu haben. Nur ist das im wesentlichen ein 
>1-Mann-Unternehmen ohne Kapital, da wird das wohl erstmal nix.

Naja das ist eigentlich der Moment wo jemand wohl anfangen muss
nachzudenken.

Hat der jemand eine gute Geschäftsidee und ist sie auch ethisch sauber und
nachhaltig, wie zum Beispiel das Distribuieren freier Produkte oder
Bausätze, dann könnte dieser jemand sich dringend überlegen nach
Venture-Kapital zu suchen und eine größere Struktur zu planen. Dafür ist
ja der Kredit unter kapitalistischen Bedingungen da, und warum sollte
dieser Umstand nicht auch einmal positiv ausgenutzt werden.

Freie Hardware-Distributoren gibts in den USA schon einige:  

http://www.thinkgeek.com/   verkaufen zwar hauptsächlich geek -
merchandise, aber schon das andere oder eine nützliche Ding

http://www.makershed.com/

ich fände es eine sehr effektive Kombination, wenn sich eine solche
Spezialdistribution im Huckepackverfahren der vorhandenen Kanäle einer
Massendistribution für Prosumenten bedienen würde. Keine Ahnung ob das
geht.

ich schrieb heute in einer eher privaten Korrespondenz an einige Leute im
Umfeld von Marcin und Sam Rose:

Seems in a recent thread with Marcin we have heard very extreme positions
- almost opposing. but just seemingly. Do we want to kill Walmart
(Marcin+Sam), do we like it somehow (Vinnay) do we distrust them (Edward)
- everything was here. Just a followup on our controversy since Oekonux
about the meaning of Global Villages and their internal economy.

In this light I wish to restate my recent notion on Global Vilages. The
simple answer is: If we can develop a leading role of open design and
simultaneously of community subsistence driven design concepts (a total
redesign of technology from perpetrating dependency to growing autonomy
and true quality of life) , we might not need to bring "mini steel blast
furnaces" to every village to have cultural hegemony !!

In the end it will be a practical question if "prosumers walmart" or
"village home depot" (the xxl version of todays corporations, targeted
towards the global villages market)  deliver the CEB or if a community led
cooperative production and distribution chain will do the same. 
Or - to carry the question further o the state -  if a political
administration finally agrees that we dont pay taxes when we do
nonmonetary subsistence work, cause we take social burdens off their
shoulders.

We are shaping the future not only for ourselves, but we are co-developing
it for others. That is so important to understand!

We have a tremendous example of positive transformation in this country,
the "Arch Duke John of Styria who created the modern revolution in
Austria":

"John eventually moved to Graz, in Styria, where he would achieve the
greatest successes in his life. He participated in Court affairs only
intermittently, generally in opposition to the policies of Metternich.
However, he took a keen interest in the development of Styria. He helped
develop the trade and transportation of the hitherto isolated town of
Graz. He was also greatly intested in Styric culture, founding the [
http://www.gcongress.com/joanneum.htm ]Joanneum, the first museum in
Austria dedicated to the public. During this time he also shocked the
Court by marrying the daughter of a local postmaster. Nearly 200 years
later he is still a beloved figure in the history of Graz, and the central
plaza of the town is built around his statue."

http://www.wargame.ch/wc/nwc/newsletter/September2001/Newsletter15/Leaders.html

This guy was the prototypical member of the old ruling system who was
incredibly helpul and useful in creating the new one. Hid did the things
that needed a Revolution and the Guillotine elsewhere to happen. The
article does not mention it, but one could fill books.

We might want to include the potential for such figures to appear on the
political - economic scene of todays ruling class. In fact a split in the
ruling class is the most important indicator for the power of a
revolutionary idea!

This does not mean we should cease our efforts to build our own
structures, but it should help us get the big picture. 

Its equally important to promote fitting roles and schemes in the
capitalist world, and with every day the germ forms become stronger, the
question of practical mutial relations become more urgent.

Franz

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