Hi Christopher, Thanks for the email. Now the fact that that we can interface with C /C++ is good news. At the moment I am evaluating a possible framework for us to use with our project related to climate model analysis. I have used Kepler to create actors related to climate studies using the composite actor and they are working well. I am heartened by fact that the user group has been very responsive and helpful as I learn this framework.
I ended using what you suggested, that is using a Parameter actor that can be seen workflow wide. Am I allowed to say "the variable is local to the workflow actor" :). Thanks again, Ric From: Christopher Brooks [mailto:c...@eecs.berkeley.edu] Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012 12:00 PM To: Pascual, Ricardo (CMAR, Dutton Park) Cc: barsegh...@nceas.ucsb.edu; Kepler-users@kepler-project.org Subject: Re: [kepler-users] Kepler: Array instantiation and Array element assignment Hi Ricardo, Interfacing to C is not that difficult, though it is difficult to do in a portable manner. See http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/jni/ I used JNA (https://github.com/twall/jna) with good success to interface to FMI, see org/ptolemy/fmu. The JNAerator will create stub code for you from C and C++ http://code.google.com/p/jnaerator/ Ptolemy II includes ways to access C code, see the faq links below. See $PTII/bin/vergil $PTII/ptolemy/cg/lib/demo/Scale/ScaleC.xml For interfacing to a C library that is complex, I suggest using JNA to create some wrapper Java code and then write actors that use the Java wrapper code. I don't really understand your initial question though. What are you trying to do? You said you wanted to create a "scope workflow wide". Typically, we do this by placing a parameter into a model. If you were writing Java code, you would create a parameter in the container of an actor, but this is not very good actor-oriented programming. For information about writing actors in Java, see the designing actors chapter of http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Pubs/TechRpts/2008/EECS-2008-28.html _Christopher On 10/1/12 6:04 PM, ricardo.pasc...@csiro.au<mailto:ricardo.pasc...@csiro.au> wrote: Hi Derik, Thanks for the email. Somehow I need to interface with C/C++ codes as there are codes that I will need written in C/C++. It is good to know that there is an active forum on Kepler. Cheers, Ric From: Derik Barseghian [mailto:barsegh...@nceas.ucsb.edu] Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012 10:56 AM To: Pascual, Ricardo (CMAR, Dutton Park) Cc: kepler-users@kepler-project.org<mailto:kepler-users@kepler-project.org> Users Subject: Re: [kepler-users] Kepler: Array instatiation and Array element assignment Hi Ric, I found some relevant info here; http://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu/ptolemyII/ptIIfaq.htm#Interfacing to C/C++<http://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu/ptolemyII/ptIIfaq.htm#Interfacing%20to%20C/C++> http://ptolemy.eecs.berkeley.edu/ptolemyII/ptIIfaq.htm#CodeGen The descriptions make it sound like these aren't being worked on anymore, but I've seen ptolemy SVN check-ins that seem to do w/ C code generation and copernicus in the recent past, so I'm not sure about that. Note you can call any arbitrary program using the External Execution actor. If you're trying to develop new actor(s), customizing the RExpression or Python actors, or writing new ones in Java is probably easiest. Derik On Oct 1, 2012, at 8:46 AM, "Edward A. Lee" <e...@eecs.berkeley.edu<mailto:e...@eecs.berkeley.edu>> wrote: The SetVariable actor is rather tricky to use. Depending on the director that you choose and the parameters you set, it could be nondeterministic. Why go through a variable? Why not just feed the data from DirectoryListing to where it is needed? If there are lots of places it is needed, you might consider using Publisher and Subscriber. These, at least, are assured of determinism. It is a bit of a change of mindset to "think in kepler" :-) It's quite important which director you pick. They all provide a concurrent model of computation, but their behaviors are quite different... Edward On 9/30/12 8:49 PM, ricardo.pasc...@csiro.au<mailto:ricardo.pasc...@csiro.au> wrote: Hi Edward. Thanks for the email. I am still trying to to learn how to think properly in kepler. Any how the best solution I can come up with is defining a parameter actor and setting the value using the VariableSetter actor. I believe you created this actor. So if I set it to an array of strings dirList will be an array of string as in below. *dirList #"declare the variable as ParameterActor" DirectoryListingActor -----> VariableSetterActor(with .variablename =dirList) There might be a more elegant solution but that will have to wait until I know more of kepler. As you pointed out you can do this with the various Expression like RExpression and others. BTW is there a hook to C++ in kepler? Kind regards. Ric ________________________________________ From: Edward A. Lee [e...@eecs.berkeley.edu<mailto:e...@eecs.berkeley.edu>] Sent: Monday, 1 October 2012 7:02 AM To: Pascual, Ricardo (CMAR, Dutton Park) Cc: Kepler-users@kepler-project.org<mailto:Kepler-users@kepler-project.org>; c...@eecs.berkeley.edu<mailto:c...@eecs.berkeley.edu>; cr...@sdsc.edu<mailto:cr...@sdsc.edu> Subject: Re: [kepler-users] Kepler: Array instatiation and Array element assignment Hi Ric, I'm not sure what you mean by "programmatically." What you describe below is a program in an imperative language. In Kepler, the primary imperative language is Java. So you could write an actor in Java that does this. There are also hooks to write actors in MATLAB and Python, which are also imperative languages. If instead you are trying to define a workflow that builds this variable, then the only director with an imperative flavor is the FSM. I think it could be awkward to define it in an FSM. You could use a dataflow director or PN and SequenceToArray actor, but these are distinctly not imperative. In Kepler, parameters are defined as expressions in the Ptolemy expression language. The expression language is also not an imperative language. It is a functional language. So you don't actually specify sequences of steps for defining variables. It occurs to me that it could be very useful to define subclass of Parameter, say PythonParameter, that specifies a parameter value that is initialized by running a Python script... This would probably be fairly easy to write... Any interest in this? Edward On 9/30/12 12:39 PM, ricardo.pasc...@csiro.au<mailto:ricardo.pasc...@csiro.au> wrote: Hi All, Oooops wrong title. Thanks, Ric ________________________________________ From: kepler-users-boun...@kepler-project.org<mailto:kepler-users-boun...@kepler-project.org> [kepler-users-boun...@kepler-project.org<mailto:kepler-users-boun...@kepler-project.org>] On Behalf Of ricardo.pasc...@csiro.au<mailto:ricardo.pasc...@csiro.au> [ricardo.pasc...@csiro.au<mailto:ricardo.pasc...@csiro.au>] Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 9:11 PM To: Kepler-users@kepler-project.org<mailto:Kepler-users@kepler-project.org>; c...@eecs.berkeley.edu<mailto:c...@eecs.berkeley.edu>; cr...@sdsc.edu<mailto:cr...@sdsc.edu> Subject: [ExternalEmail] Re: [kepler-users] netCDF Hi All, I am about a week old into Kepler and having difficulty defining an array variable programmatically. I have search the internet for this to no avail. I know how to do it as a constant by assigning the value = {"x1", ...}. What I like to do is define a variable with scope workflow wide say string fileNames[]; then assign values to it as in fileNames[0] = "file0" fileNames[1] = "file1" and so on. 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