On 11/5/2012 2:49 PM, Dyer, Rodney wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I need some advice.  I need to verify that an MIT/Windows trust option we've 
> wanted to work, in fact cannot work.  Can someone here maybe provide some 
> insightful comments on our setup?
>

Have you looked at cross-forest trust between MOSAIC.UNCC.EDU and 
MOSAIC64.UNCC.EDU?

I don't know if that would work.

Since your Kerberos realm is UNCC.EDU, you can't have both in the same forest,
as the top of the forest would have to be UNCC.EDU.



> Given:
>
>
> 1.     We have an existing Microsoft Win2k3 AD domain (MOSAIC.UNCC.EDU) in a 
> cross-realm trust with an MIT KDC realm (UNCC.EDU).
>
>
>
> 2.     Our XP clients are members of the Win2k3 domain.
>
>
>
> 3.     Our XP users logon to the XP clients using their MIT realm credentials.
>
>
>
> 4.     Once logged on to XP, our users access a CIFS share, hosted off of one 
> of the Win2k3 domain servers.  The access works without a password because 
> the CIFS service ticket is served from the Win2k3 domain.  The MIT user's 
> "tgt" is "trusted".
>
>
>       This 'old' setup has worked fine for years.
>
>
>       Now for the 'new' setup...
>
>
> 1.     We have setup a new Win2k8R2 domain "MOSAIC64.UNCC.EDU".
>
>
>
> 2.     The Win2k8R2 domain is also in a cross-realm trust with the MIT realm 
> "UNCC.EDU".
>
>
>
> 3.     Our new Win7 clients are members of the Win2k8R2 domain.
>
>
>
> 4.     Once logged on to Win 7, our user can access a CIFS share, hosted off 
> of one of the Win2k8R2 domain servers.  The access works without a password 
> because the CIFS service ticket is served from the Win2k8R2 domain.  The MIT 
> user's "tgt" is "trusted".
>
>
>       This 'new' setup works just fine.
>
>
> |----------------------|
> | MIT REALM:  UNCC.EDU |
> |----------------------|
>        ^         ^
>        |         |
>        |         |
>        |         |  AD1 trust    |------| domain membership |-----------|
>        |         --------------->| AD1  |<------------------| XP Client 
> |<---[ [email protected] ]
>       |                         |------|                   |-----------|
>        |                            ^             ---------/
>        |                            |            /
>        |                   |-------------------|/
>        |                   | AD CIFS VOL SHARE |
>        |                   |-------------------|
>        |
>        |
>        |
>        |
>        |            AD2 trust    |------| domain membership |-------------|
>        ------------------------->| AD2  |<------------------| Win7 Client 
> |<---[ [email protected] ]
>                                  |------|                   |-------------|
>                                     ^             ---------/
>                                     |            /
>                            |-------------------|/
>                            | AD CIFS VOL SHARE |
>                            |-------------------|
>
>
>
>
>       Now for our 'problem'...
>
>
>
> 1.     What we really need is for our XP and Win7 users to share the "same 
> CIFS volume", either hosted off of the old Win2k3 CIFS share, or the new 
> Win2k8R2 CIFS share.  We want this...
>
>
> |----------------------|
> | MIT REALM:  UNCC.EDU |
> |----------------------|
>        ^         ^
>        |         |
>        |         |
>        |         |  AD1 trust    |------| domain membership |-----------|
>        |         --------------->| AD1  |<------------------| XP Client 
> |<---[ [email protected] ]
>        |                         |------|                   |-----------|
>        |                            ^             ---------/
>        |                            |            /
>        |                   |-------------------|/
>        |                   | AD CIFS VOL SHARE |
>        |                   |-------------------|\
>        |                                         \
>        |                                          \------\
>        |                                                  \
>        |                                                   \
>        |            AD2 trust    |------| domain membership |-------------|
>        ------------------------->| AD2  |<------------------| Win7 Client 
> |<----[ [email protected] ]
>                                  |------|                   |-------------|
>
>
>
>
> 2.     We are finding no way to configure trusts, or setup 'forest' trusts to 
> allow sharing of a single CIFS share from both AD domains.
>
>
> Does anyone know what, if any options we may have here?
>
> It would seem that since our XP/Win7 clients can only be members of one 
> domain, or the other, then we have no capability to provide authentication 
> through to a non-member domain, even if it is also in the same cross-realm 
> trust with the MIT KDC.
>
> Essentially, "user@AD1_DOMAIN" (while logged on a client that is a 
> "AD1_DOMAIN" member), can't be mapped to "user@AD2_DOMAIN", even if both 
> domains are trusting "MIT.REALM", and the user has a "[email protected]" TGT.
>
> Is this reasoning correct?
>
> Rodney
>
> Rodney M. Dyer
> Operations and Systems (Specialist)
> Mosaic Computing Group
> William States Lee College of Engineering
> University of North Carolina at Charlotte
> Email: [email protected]
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