Hello,

I would like to introduce a few ideas about the new firmware subsystem. I assume that it should not require adding a new system tools or modifying boot process.

Simplification is the first. It would be good to remove parent-child relationship and corresponding functionality. It would significantly simplify firmware handling. Its only practical use is when there are multiple images in one loadable kernel module. The module can be unloaded when all children are not in use. Usage of the children images is tracked through the counter for the parent image. If images will not be placed inside loadable kernel modules, the parent-child mechanism won't have any practical meaning. I think, currently the mechanism is not used anywhere in the DragonFly system and if it was, it could be easily replaced by putting every child image in its own module without modifying drivers.

There are two use cases according to who will provide firmware images to the system:

- developers of DragonFly BSD (they can modify and rebuild the system)
- third-parties (they should not be required to modify and rebuild the system)

Providing a new non-built-in firmware should not require:

a) system rebuild
b) system reboot
c) loading a kernel module

All firmware images needs to have some information attached (at least, if ack with a license is needed) which should be

d) stored persistently.

The question is where to save the information for non-built-in images. For built-in images the info is saved in the kernel. Some possibilities are:

- A plain text configuration file per image.
This satisfies requirements a), b), c) and d). Disadvantage is parsing the text content.

- Kernel environment variables.
  The problem with this is that they are initialized:
    - by some kernel code (this violates a), b), c) )
- manually from userland by kenv command or kenv() libc function (violates d) ) - in the loader.conf (violates b) since the content is processed at boot time)
  Advantage is that the parsing is done by the kernel.

There would be two firmware sources: kernel and filesystem. In case of the same image names, user could have a choice by setting a kernel environment variable, firmware from which source has higher priority and will be provided to consumer.


I will be happy for a comments and ideas
jan

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