Sorry to be negative, but I would say we'd have to pull something pretty
amazing out of the hat, JVM-wise, to be able to beat HotSpot or IBM's JVM on
Linux in any area at all. Personally, I think the only reason to be
interested in writing a new JVM is for personal understanding of how they
work and the intellectual challenge (at least that's why I've been
involved).

This overlaps with what I was going to suggest as follow-up to Robert's 'The
JOS Project?' thread. Perhaps JOS should develop along two lines:

1. JVM / low-level OS development along the current lines. If this ever bore
fruit, then it could replace Linux in the following:

2. A separate project to work on closer integration of existing JVM's into
Linux so that shell, user-interface etc is all written in Java. Kind of a
Java-centric KDE / Gnome initially, but it could then worm it's way further
down to start taking over file system and other duties, if we wanted. This
gives us something of a Java OS but without the overhead of trying to take
on the work of writing both Linux and a JDK from the ground up ... (NB
something like this was suggested over at the JavaLobby .. anyone know what
happened to it?)

-- George


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Iain Shigeoka [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 18 September 2000 17:06
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: [JOS-Kernel] gaining an initial perspective : JOS : why?
> 
> At 10:18 PM 8/8/00 -0700, you wrote:
> 
> >so what's so bad about (the) linux (ops-system) that it would not be 
> >sufficient?
> 
> Well, as in everything else, a purpose specific application can be 
> optimized in several areas (functionality, performance, resource usage, 
> etc).  These optimizations are typically not available to a general
> purpose 
> tool.  The same applies here, JOS is an OS specifically designed to run 
> java apps.  Therefore we hope to gain advantages over a general OS which 
> happens to run java apps.
> 
> Of course, if you don't believe the underlying premise that specialized 
> tools outperform general purpose tools in their area of expertise, then
> its 
> pretty easy to argue that JOS is a useless exercise.
> 
> -iain
> 
> 
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